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May 10 2009, 07:40 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 2.198 Joined: 11-July 08 From: Location Unknown Member No.: 117.474 |
Eu sustineam ca desi au totusi elemente de siguranta pasiva, masinile mici nu sunt chiar atat de sigure intrucat masa joaca un rol extrem de important intr-un accident. In contradictoriu, el sustinea ca vremurile cand "mare inseamna sigur" s-au dus si ca in ziua de astazi o masina oricat de sifonata ar iesi dintr-un asemenea accident, ocupantii sunt protejati. Este adevarat, masinile de astazi au o siguranta pasive net superioara celor din trecut si sunt construite avand la baza tehnologii menite sa inlature pe cat posibil pericolul: motorul este in asa fel amplasat incat sa fie impins sub habitaclu, nervuri bine gandite menite sa absoarba pe cat posibil orice forma de impact, design special facut sa aibe o deformare controlata si sa directioneze materialul in exterior, structura "cusca", elemente de protectie laterala incluse in usi, etc. Cu toate acestea, in conformitate cu legile fizicii, consider ca masa are si va avea in permanenta un cuvant de spus. Astazi, am gasit pe yahoo un articol interesant care sustine aceeasi teorie pe care si eu la randul meu o imbratisez. Imi cer scuze celor care nu stiu engleza. ___________________________________________________________ Small cars won't keep you safe Forbes.com - Hannah Elliott While environmentalists push laws requiring automakers to sell smaller, lighter cars in order to meet higher fuel-economy standards, safety advocates worry that meeting those demands will result in cars that are less safe in a crash. They might be right. A report released today by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) praises President Obama's plan to boost fuel economy standards for cars by using a size-based system that removes incentives for automakers to manufacture only tiny cars. The report also says mid-size and large sedans must have a place on the nation's highways because--even with airbags, electronic stability control and strong front-crash ratings--small cars are much more dangerous in head-on crashes than larger vehicles. 'A really, really poorly designed or insufficiently designed large- or medium-sized car may be more or less protective than the best-designed small car, but that's something that you're not going to be able to tell just by looking at crash-test ratings,' says David Zuby, senior vice president of vehicle research for IIHS. 'So all things being equal, if you're concerned about safety, you want a bigger, heavier car.' The statistics support Zuby's claim. Death rates in minicars involved in multi-car crashes are nearly twice as high as those in large sedans, according to IIHS data. In single-car crashes, 11 people per million were killed in large sedans in 2007, compared with 35 per million killed in small cars. In mid-size cars, the death rate for single-vehicle crashes is 17 per cent less than for minicars. The new report is especially noteworthy because normally the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) crash tests are performed using a stationary wall and a single car--not two cars being crashed into each other. The Laws of Physics The Arlington, Va.-based IIHS rated front-to-front crash tests between microcars and mid-size sedans. The Institute chose 2009 models of the Honda Fit and Accord, the Smart Fortwo and Mercedes C-Class, and the Toyota Camry and Yaris. It did not survey SUVs or large sedans in order to show how much influence even small increases in size and weight have on crashes, the report said. Vehicles from Daimler, Honda and Toyota earned study slots because they have small models with 'good' ratings--the highest that the IIHS awards--in a 40-mile-per-hour frontal (stationary barrier) crash. But the Fit, Fortwo and Yaris performed poorly in frontal collisions with midsize cars, according to the new report. Size is important because mass, coupled with acceleration, determines the force of a crash. Injuries depend on the forces that act on the occupants in the car, not on how much external damage the car sustains. The force of a crash turns on two key attributes: the weight of the crashing vehicle, which determines how much speed must be absorbed during the impact, and the size of the vehicle, which often determines how close the front of the vehicle is to the driver--an essential indicator of the extent of injuries to the legs and torso. 'When we run our crash tests, we see that the vehicles that crush up more when we crash them are ones in which the forces on the dummies inside ... are much higher,' Zuby says. In other words, the occupants of the smaller car are at greater risk of injury. In the crash test between the C-Class and Fortwo, for example, the Smart bounced off the C-Class and turned 450 degrees before landing and displacing the instrument panel and steering wheel through the cockpit. The C-Class had almost no intrusion of the front gears into the passenger area. Granted, the IIHS tests are much more severe than government safety standards mandate, as small-car proponents often note. The Smart Fortwo meets all U.S. government crash-test standards, including a five-star side-crash rating, notes Dave Schembri, the president of Smart USA. It also earned the highest scores for front- and side-crash worthiness from the IIHS itself. 'People drive small cars for many reasons, not just fuel economy as the IIHS states,' Schembri said in a written response to the report. 'People choose small vehicles because they are generally more environmentally friendly, a great value, they provide for greater driving and parking options in congested urban areas, and many consumers tell us they are simply more fun to drive.' The IIHS report also notes that advanced crash-avoidance and crash-protection safety systems, like the electronic stability program and a reinforced steel safety cage found in the Smart, do help mitigate crash results. Honda's Fit fared slightly better in its crash with the Accord (the Fit is the safest minicar sold in the U.S., according to IIHS safety ratings), but the dummy's head struck the steering wheel through the airbag, and Institute testers recorded a 'high risk of leg injury in a real-world crash of similar severity.' A written statement from Honda in response to this report said Honda has specifically addressed frontal crash compatibility between vehicles of different size and ride heights. It has done so by developing a body structure placed in all 2009 vehicles that helps absorb the energy of a frontal crash by channeling energy through both the upper and lower structural elements. The statement also pointed out that the IIHS tests are under 'unusual and extreme conditions' conducted 'at higher speeds than most real-world vehicle-to-vehicle crashes.' The Yaris, in its crash with the Camry, lost a door and, despite the airbag, also forced the dummy's head against the steering wheel. Excessive head and neck injuries, plus deep gashes on the right knee of the dummy, were also reported. Brian Lyons, the safety and quality communications manager for Toyota, says the real question for a 'comprehensive safety assessment' is how well the vehicle's safety systems perform in real-world accidents. According to NHTSA data, he says, less than 0.06 per cent of all frontal crashes occur at the crash severity selected by the IIHS. 'The IIHS test is equivalent to an 80-mph closing speed (with opposing vehicles traveling at 40 mph), a speed and energy higher than 99.1 per cent of all real-world crashes,' Lyons said in a written response to this report. 'According to NHTSA, vehicle safety in all car classes continues to improve, in part due to the active and passive safety features developed by the automotive industry.' A Happy Medium Minicars have many admirable qualities: they're affordable, they use small amounts of gas, they emit less carbon and they're easy to park. But if you're concerned about safety, there are other ways to save gas than buy a Smart Fortwo, says Christie Hyde, a spokeswoman for AAA. Hybrid technology and turbochargers, which enable smaller engines to produce more power, can help larger cars run just as efficiently as smaller ones, she says. 'There are definitely a lot more options' than buying a Smart, Hyde says. The $14,500 coupe gets 14.03 km per litre in the city and 17.43 km per litre on the highway. The $17,130 Hyundai Elantra (10.20 km per litre city/14.03 km per litre highway) and $16,130 Suzuki SX4 (29.35 km per litre city/12.33 km per litre), not to mention the $35,385 Acura TSX (8.93 km per litre city/12.75 lm per litre highway) and $31,822 Chevrolet Malibu hybrid (11.05 km per litre city/14.45 km per litre highway), all offer generous gas mileage coupled with a four-door sedan body. Choices do abound, and no one car is right for everyone, Zuby concedes. But there are enough, he says, that deliver on fuel-efficiency as well as safety. SURSA: yahoo.ca http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/p/1368/small-car...t-keep-you-safe This post has been edited by Rebel: May 10 2009, 07:41 PM -------------------- ///M - The Ultimate Driving Machine
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May 18 2009, 09:18 AM
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Asa?! Group: Membri Posts: 3.821 Joined: 10-January 08 From: Galati Member No.: 116.021 |
Discutiile de pe acest topic ma fac sa ma gandesc serios la o tancheta cu toate ca si aia se dezintegreaza la impactul cu un avion!!!
Perceptia asta e gresita, pentru ca, daca te respecti si il respecti si pe celalalt din trafic, nu o sa faci slalom, caz in care, urmezi traficul la fel ca si cel din spate/fata care are ditamai mastodontul. Din pacate un alt sport national practicat pe sosele, este "strecuratul" printre ceilalti "fraieri"... practicat mai ales pe doua roti... Adica daca masina-mi are loc sa treaca printre altele eu tre' sa astept?! De ce? Ii respect pe ceilalti in sensul ca nu-i incomodez daca vor/pot sa treaca si au prioritate insa ma astept la acelasi tratament (aici se incadreaza perfect scuterul insa nu am mers cu vre-unul printre masini oprite la semafor asa ca n-o sa zic nimic despre ele ); sincer sa fiu Matiz e o super-masina de oras: poti transforma aproape orice loc liber in loc de parcare (daca nu ai loc poti sa-l bagi in buzunar ), te strecori foarte usor ca s-o iei la dreapta pe langa masini oprite la semafor, are destula dinamica pentru mersul prin oras, costa putin intretinerea insa orice impact te duce dracu'! Cred ca e a zecea oara cand scriu. Am condus, nu pe drumuri publice(sau ma rog, au fost si zone de drum public, insa pustii, locuri unde vezi 3 masini pe zi), dar am mers. Sunt ultima persoana care sa spuna ca "meseria" de sofer "e grea", doar daca te gandesti la cerintele de angajare a unui sofer poti spune ca un IQ de 90 e mai mult decat suficient insa, asa cum ti-ai dat si singur seama, unele din afirmatiile tale sunt putin fortate; o sa vezi dupa ce intri in trafic si o sa-ti dai seama exact unde te inseli . Multa bafta! Cat mai ai pana dai examenul (am un vecin care a dat a 5-a oara si a picat da' de fiecare data a picat sala pentru ca nu vrea deloc sa invete, ma tot batea la cap sa-i dau testele oficiale a Politiei Romane desi i-am dat cartea galbena si chestionarele si i-am zis ca daca le face pe alea n-o sa aiba nici cea mai mica problema)? -------------------- |
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May 18 2009, 10:38 AM
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Tree Hugger Group: Membri Posts: 3.097 Joined: 30-January 08 From: Botosani, RO Member No.: 116.228 |
Perceptia asta e gresita, pentru ca, daca te respecti si il respecti si pe celalalt din trafic, nu o sa faci slalom, caz in care, urmezi traficul la fel ca si cel din spate/fata care are ditamai mastodontul. Din pacate un alt sport national practicat pe sosele, este "strecuratul" printre ceilalti "fraieri"... practicat mai ales pe doua roti... Adica daca masina-mi are loc sa treaca printre altele eu tre' sa astept?! De ce? Ii respect pe ceilalti in sensul ca nu-i incomodez daca vor/pot sa treaca si au prioritate insa ma astept la acelasi tratament (aici se incadreaza perfect scuterul insa nu am mers cu vre-unul printre masini oprite la semafor asa ca n-o sa zic nimic despre ele ); Asta e valabil daca tu esti singurul care vrea sa se strecoare... insa se stie ca mai toti vor sa fie macar cu un loc in fata la semafor/coada, etc., chiar daca, economico-temporal vorbind( ), nu are niciun rezultat semnificativ. Cat despre bi-rotistii care se strecoara printre masini... p.s... ia sa vedem cat dureaza pana ajung la "funny quotes"... -------------------- prius - adv. mai intai, de mai inainte
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