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FAR EASTERN
post Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM
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Pe adresa asta s-a facut un top5 al motivelor pentru care lumea "mai asteapta" pana sa-si cumpere un hibrid. Sunt si o gramada de comentarii. Tinand cont ca alea-s pareri ale americanilor, hai sa vedem ce zic si romanii.
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post Mar 30 2008, 10:08 PM
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Hai sa o dam in metafizica ...


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http://calcars.org/vehicles.html

Ei trec printr-un calcul in care echivaleaza costul incarcarii bateriilor cu costul unui galon de benzina...impart la pi, inmultesc cu numarul de arabi cu sondele in curte, scad numarul de centrale atomo-electrice si scot patratul radicalului numarului de centrale termoelectrice pe carbune.

DAR MASINILE PRIUS NU SCOT 100 MILE LA GALLON. Uite asta ma enerveaza...faptul ca fac propaganda falsa. Masinile Prius nu consuma un galon de benzina la 100 de mile...4 litri la 160 km (cea mai aprox. egalitate). Tehnologia lor nu permite acest lucru. Si cu toate acestea lumea crede. Iar ei afiseaza cu nesimtire acest lucru pe masinile astea. Prius obtine echivalentul a 100 mile la galon folosind motorul electric numai, si zeci de kile de baterii in plus...



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We say above that you can fill up your "electric tank" for less than $1/gallon. How? Using the average U.S. electricity rate of 9 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh), 30 miles of electric driving will cost 81 cents. If we optimistically assume the average US fuel economy is 25 miles per gallon, at $3.00 gasoline this equates to 75 cents a gallon for equivalent electricity. Compared to a regular hybrid's real-world 45 miles per gallon, it's effectively $1.20/gallon.



Uite asta e Priusul de 100 mile la gallon.


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1.5? How far can you go on a charge?
Prius:

* The assumption is that you will drive conservatively, and you start from a fully charged battery, and that the weather is warm.
* For a Prius PHEV-30, the quick answer is:
o Driving slower than 34 mph: about 30 miles in Pure Electric Mode
o Driving up to highway speeds: about 60 miles in Mixed Mode (gasoline + electricity), with about 100 mpg efficiency
* For a Prius PHEV-15, the answer is the same, except that distance will be about 15 miles on Pure Electric Mode, about 30 miles in Mixed Mode.
* After the battery is discharged, you still get the original 50 mpg efficiency of the Prius.

The mileage of a PHEV-30 Prius.
If driving slowly, the engine doesn't come on (pure electric driving), and the mileage is infinite.
If driving normally, the engine does come on at times,and the mileage is about twice that of a standard Prius.
Once the battery is discharged, the mileage reverts to the mileage of a standard Prius.

http://www.hybrids-plus.com/ht/faq.html#toc2

Oare este nevoie sa mai traduc ? Hybrid - Plus se referea la bateriile suplimentare incarcate de la reteaua electrica.

2.3? At what speed does the engine come on?

That is determined by the car manufacturer; we do not change that. The following values are just for your reference, are not not specified, are approximate, and assume that the engine is warm, the battery is full, and that you're driving nice and easy:

* Prius: 23 mph
* Prius, EV Mode: 34 mph
* Escape: ~30 mph

But really, people who ask this question may be missing a very important point: The PHEV conversion doesn't turn your Hybrid into an Electric Vehicle: it's still a Hybrid, and it still uses both the engine and the motor. Most of the time both the engine and the motor are contributing power, in a varying proportion. It's just that, after a PHEV conversion, the car will favor the motor for longer periods that it did before the conversion; and that results into a higher mpg. So, it's really of small consequence whether the engine is on or off. Don't worry about the engine. Just enjoy the high mpg.

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- - f1anatic   Eu urasc benzina ! Vreau sa o consum toata ...   Mar 25 2008, 02:52 PM
- - OvidiuH   QUOTE(FAR EASTERN @ Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM...   Mar 25 2008, 03:00 PM
- - Paul46623   @f1anatic: A-yu-men brotha'! N-as alege un...   Mar 25 2008, 03:05 PM
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