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post Feb 12 2008, 10:51 AM
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Astazi am asistat la o scena care mi-a provocat o senzatie de scarba extrema fata de cultura romaneasca. Aglomeratie mare in rondul dintre Pache Protopopescu si Carol I. Se merge bara la bara si la un moment dat, din neatentie sau datorita franelor proaste o dacie 1310 alba atinge in spate un phaeton de toata frumusetea. La vitezele implicate (1-2 km/h) nu se pune problema de pagube, totusi, soferul phaetonului coboara din masina, deschide usa daciei si incepe sa-i dea picioare in cap soferului.

Socat, cobor din masina mea si ma indrept spre locul bataii ca sa-i despart. Soferul phaetonului se calmeaza inainte de a ajunge acolo, asa ca eu ma multumesc sa sun la 112. Raportez incidentul si o domnisoara foarte draguta imi face legatura cu politia. Problema este ca, traficul avansa si in momentul in care mi s-a facut legatura cu politia am ajuns in dreptul daciei albe. Cobor din masina si ii dau telefonul soferului, spunandu-i ca e politia si ca poate raporta agresiunea, la care el imi spune ca nu vrea sa se bage. Asa ca eu am multumit politicos ofiterului de politie de la telefon si am inchis.

Pai bine mai, iei picioare in cap, esti umilit in toata intersectia si pe urma nu vrei sa retaliezi sub nici o forma? Ori am dat peste Ghandi2, ori asta este mentalitatea romanului, in care daca ai mai (mult mai) putini bani decat agresorul stai si inghiti orice cacat de teama sa nu ti-o iei mai rau....

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20krpm, in America nu se arata degetul pe geam? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE( T u d o r @ Feb 15 2008, 03:07 AM) *
20krpm, in America nu se arata degetul pe geam? biggrin.gif

ba, cred ca se mai arata, dar nu despre asta era vorba. intreaba-ma, daca e sa arat degetul, cit de normal mi se pare cineva sa scoata pistolul la mine. sau daca mi se poate intimpla ca persoana careia-i arat degetul sa-mi fie un coleg de serviciu. sau cineva pe care intilnesc miine intr-un business meeting. voi treceti cu vederea faptul ca "amicul" s-a pus singur in jeopardy - eu nu.

oricum mi se pare un gest josnic, de persoana care nu e in stare sa se stapineasca, si n-am de gind sa fac chestia asta si apoi sa caut sa ma scuz.


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intreb si eu doar asa....... Voi ati vazut vreodata doi oameni care si-au lovit masinile reciproc (fara victime) si care sa coboare calmi, sa se salute cuviincios si sa discute civilizat? Chiar trebuie ca inainte de a veni politia sa se treaca in revista toti sfintii / neamurile (mame,surori,sotii,fiice,matusi,inaintasi si urmasi)? Chiar trebuie?

...ma intreb eu acum, de ce nu l-am omorat pe ala care,in miez de noapte a lasat caruta in drum fara cai, fara lumini si a plecat in curte iar eu am lovit caruta ciufulindu-mi nasol dacia.....
A auzit omul lovitura, a iesit afara, eu am intrebat daca a fost cineva in caruta, unde-s caii, el m-a intrebat daca am eu ceva (ca persoana) si apoi am chemat politia. Fara injuraturi, fara bate, fara pumni si suturi. trebuia sa-l ucid ca mi-a stricat masina sau el pe mine ca i-am stricat caruta.....
.......ciudat cu unii oameni din trafic.....ciudat rau.


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QUOTE(ion95129 @ Feb 15 2008, 09:31 AM) *
intreb si eu doar asa....... Voi ati vazut vreodata doi oameni care si-au lovit masinile reciproc (fara victime) si care sa coboare calmi, sa se salute cuviincios si sa discute civilizat? Chiar trebuie ca inainte de a veni politia sa se treaca in revista toti sfintii / neamurile (mame,surori,sotii,fiice,matusi,inaintasi si urmasi)? Chiar trebuie?



Da man, se intimpla aici mai des decit crezi. Nimeni nu va fi bucuros ca a ciuntit masina...dar sintem o societate de consum si masina, bara, aripa, portiera se schimba, se repara, se vopseste. Nu trebuie sa te dai jos la individ cu bita sau sprayul paralizant. Ma rog, sugerez sa ai un spray la tine tot timpul. Dar...daca vezi ca cealalta persoana vine hotarita spre tine cu gind de cafteala...dai imediat telefon la 911 - iti raspunde imediat in 5 secunde si ii spui ca esti in accident cu victime si ca cealalta persoana implicata in accident vine spre tine sa te ia la bataie si ca tu te-ai inchis de frica in masina (lucru recomandat - ma rog in functie de accident). Nici nu ai idee cit de repede apare politia... De fapt serios...filmele cu fraieri americane despre cit de eficienta e politia nu captureaza bine realitatea. Presupunind ca esti in oras (si nu in cimp) o masina de politie va fi intotdeauna la mai putin de 3 min distanta.

Acum multi ani eram cu tata in masina cind noi pe verde am lovit un biciclist. Mexican imigrant ilegal care nu vorbea nici o engleza. Intre apelul 911 si sosirea politiei au fost 40 de secunde. Nu a fost nici un raport, nici o problema nici o nimic. Noi aveam totul in regula, si treceam pe verde, ala ne-a taiat calea. Cind ala a pretins sa ii platim bicicleta, am comentat in gura mare ca sun la INS. Politia ne-a facut semn sa plecam.

Si fara sa o trec pe politica si etnofobie dar tot trebuie sa mentionez. Intre USA si Mexico trebuie facut un canal lat de o mila, umplut cu apa si crocodili si 3 garduri electrificate inalte de 20 m pe partea americana. Da, sint DEMOCRAT si LIBERAL dar si invazia de la sud are o limita - pentru ca au schimbat modul nostru de viata intr-o debandada cu crima, violenta, mizerie si taxare nejustificata pt a le acoperi lor nevoile.


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QUOTE(f1anatic @ Feb 16 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Si fara sa o trec pe politica si etnofobie dar tot trebuie sa mentionez. Intre USA si Mexico trebuie facut un canal lat de o mila, umplut cu apa si crocodili si 3 garduri electrificate inalte de 20 m pe partea americana. Da, sint DEMOCRAT si LIBERAL dar si invazia de la sud are o limita - pentru ca au schimbat modul nostru de viata intr-o debandada cu crima, violenta, mizerie si taxare nejustificata pt a le acoperi lor nevoile.

Parca a vorbit un ... [neamt][olandez][italian][francez][spaniol]...[belgian] (aici alegeti voi orice nationatitate din EU) despre romani...


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QUOTE(Tiberiu61940 @ Feb 16 2008, 10:04 AM) *
QUOTE(f1anatic @ Feb 16 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Si fara sa o trec pe politica si etnofobie dar tot trebuie sa mentionez. Intre USA si Mexico trebuie facut un canal lat de o mila, umplut cu apa si crocodili si 3 garduri electrificate inalte de 20 m pe partea americana. Da, sint DEMOCRAT si LIBERAL dar si invazia de la sud are o limita - pentru ca au schimbat modul nostru de viata intr-o debandada cu crima, violenta, mizerie si taxare nejustificata pt a le acoperi lor nevoile.

Parca a vorbit un ... [neamt][olandez][italian][francez][spaniol]...[belgian] (aici alegeti voi orice nationatitate din EU) despre romani...



Well problema se pune in felul urmator. Romanii nu sint echivalenti cu Mexicanii. Poate se pot trage anumite paralele intre anumite minoritati cu cetatenie romana si mexicani. Nu cred insa ca romanii taxeaza la greu sistemul social din tarile europene asa cum taxeaza mexicanii pe al nostru.

What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?



Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
column titled, 'Mexican Visitor's Lament' -- 10/25/07.

She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while
visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, 'They (illegal aliens) pay rent,
buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20
million people go away?' That's a good question - it deserves an answer.
Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
The answers may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,
it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner,
safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English
became the dominant language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save
Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually
in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the
terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver
Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered
death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent
drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students
speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from
our gridlocked cities in Colorado.

Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working
poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State
back to America, the rule of law, and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
experience.

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' --

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would
return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a
living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they
wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401
Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for
local, state and city coffers.

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion
in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools
would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of
more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would
vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from
Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded
highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American
deaths by illegal aliens!

America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get
rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home
countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money
untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an
$8.7 trillion debt.

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,
costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in
California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being
bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases
rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and
grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns
of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our
greenhouse gases.

Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and
along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what
the New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is,
those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty,
filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without
sewage, clean water, streets, elec tricity, roads or any kind of sanitation.
The New York Times reported them to be America's new 'Third World' inside
our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect
20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas
and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing
our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million
people into our country legally more than all other countries combined
annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy
within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our
way of life.

Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should
vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they
are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare
to illegal aliens. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal
aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 bill ion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
children, are going to make a huge additional crime probl em in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine,
and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost
of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.& nbsp;
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...?b=deportation

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex
crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!'
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!



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- Daniel104187   underdog   Feb 12 2008, 10:51 AM
- - mike.omega   Lasitate! Sau frica ca X-u cu "fationu...   Feb 12 2008, 11:00 AM
- - Daniel104187   Culmea este ca soferul daciei nu era micut si slab...   Feb 12 2008, 11:23 AM
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|- - 20krpm   QUOTE(AZAZEL @ Feb 14 2008, 09:21 PM) [.....   Feb 15 2008, 08:53 AM
- - T u d o r   20krpm, in America nu se arata degetul pe geam?   Feb 15 2008, 09:07 AM
|- - 20krpm   QUOTE( T u d o r @ Feb 15 2008, 03:07 AM...   Feb 15 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - ion95129   intreb si eu doar asa....... Voi ati vazut vreodat...   Feb 15 2008, 05:31 PM
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|- - AZAZEL   QUOTE(A K U @ Feb 15 2008, 09:56 AM) Si p...   Feb 15 2008, 12:50 PM
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