Masina de iarna, AWD, automata, sub 2000 cmc, SH |
This topic is about Masina de iarna, the author, HalbaSus, wrote about: Situatia e in felul urmator, in prezent ML-ul familiei este folosit la comun ca masina de iarna. Sharanul si A3-ul nu prea ar face fata zapezilor de p ... To read more just scroll down
Masina de iarna, AWD, automata, sub 2000 cmc, SH |
Apr 19 2011, 11:53 AM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 10.684 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 23.122 |
De asemenea avand in vedere ca masina va fi folosita maxim 5000 de km an nu ar merita o investitie prea mare fata de pretul (probabil foarte mic) cu care vom vinde ML-ul (daca nu reusim sa-l dam, ca nu cred ca se va inghesui lumea sa cumpere masini cu motor de 3200 cmc). Hai sa zicem maxim 10.000 euro dar asta depinde si de pretul de vanzare al ML-ului. Cerinte sunt cele din titlu si in principiu nu sunt negociabile: - AWD (4x4, cum vreti sa-i ziceti, reductorul sau diferentialele blocabile sunt un avantaj dar nu reprezinta o necesitate, ba mai mult se accepta si "semi-awd"-uri gen 4-motion) - cutie automata - obligatoriu, nu e o cerinta negociabila. - sub 2000 cmc - hai sa zicem ca e foarte usor negociabila maxim 2500 cmc dar in principiu sub 2000 cmc. - garda la sol... sa fie decenta spre mare. Eu cu vreo 15 cm ai mertzului am frecat de cateva ori... acum s-a reparat putin drumul dar nu stiu cat va rezista... deci sa zicem ca minim 15 cm... dar preferabil mai inalt... nu trebuie sa fie extrem de inalt, sigur nu e nevoie de mai mult de 20cm... Ce nu ma intereseaza: - Consumul (ok, sa fie sub 20 in oras pe timp de iarna...) - Performante dinamice (vor fi proaste oricum). - Fiabilitatea ma intereseaza dar nu e un criteriu foarte important... dupa cum ziceam va circula foarte putin pe an. Asaaa... ce am gasit (ofertele individuale sunt irelevante pentru ca achizitia o vom face doar DUPA ce va fi vandut ML-ul... ori asta este un eveniment viitor si incert) - Freelander - pe hartie e foarte tentanta, sunt ieftine, au reductor, arata bine interior/exterior, insa opiniiile utilizatorilor sunt foarte proaste (fiabilitate execrabila, greieri, calitate indoielnica, etc) - Forester - Kia Sportage - Honda CR-V - Ssang Yong Kyron (sincer nu mi s-a parut mai urat decat alte suv-uri) - Jeep Cherokee - Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDI 4motion DSG (asta e foaaaaarte tentant desi e si printre cele mai scumpe oferte) - VW Touran tot 1.9 TDI 4motion DSG (la fel, tentanta dar cam scumpa, vom vedea ce oferte vor fi la momentul achizitiei efective) Experienta mea in toate masinile enumerate mai sus este zero barat. -------------------- Mercedes C320 CDI 4-matic
Audi A3 Sportback 1.9 TDI "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." -Jeremy Clarkson |
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Apr 19 2011, 12:24 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.042 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 107.409 |
Pai pe tine practic nu te intereseaza nimic in afara de fiabilitate, deci pica Land Rover-ul. In rest, vezi ce oferte gasesti. Eu m-as orienta mai degraba spre o clasa mai mica, gen Sx4/Sedici, Panda 4x4(=16 - ok asta e chiar mic), Grand-Vitara( astea sunt si cu motor 1600 cmc parca). Importanta e oferta. Poate gasesti pe cineva dornic de schimb. ML-ul are o imagine buna( sa ma pici cu ceara si nu inteleg de ce) si asa impusti 2 iepuri dintr-o data.
Aaaa, cred ca de fapt ai fi mai avantajat sa vinzi masina acum si sa cumperi alta in toamna. Asa as face eu. Pana atunci urmaresti/sondezi piata. Daca ai o oferta de nerefuzat, cumperi. Daca nu, astepti toamna. This post has been edited by mike.omega: Apr 19 2011, 05:12 PM |
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Apr 19 2011, 01:08 PM
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Around Group: Membri Posts: 1.476 Joined: 6-November 07 From: Timisoara Member No.: 115.360 |
Mai este si RAV4 2L VVTI cu automata. Garda la sol e pe la 18cm deci s-ar califica.
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Apr 19 2011, 01:33 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.042 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 107.409 |
Later: Pardon, n-are automata This post has been edited by Lucian107416: Apr 19 2011, 01:34 PM |
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Apr 19 2011, 01:34 PM
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Captain Obvious. Group: Moderator Posts: 1.312 Joined: 3-August 05 From: Oradea/Cluj Member No.: 52.535 |
Poti scoate de pe lista Subaru si Honda pentru ca nu au service in Oradea, si Cherokee sau Nitro pentru ca cel mai mic motor este 2.8d. Eu as lua Suzuki Grand Vitara 1.9 DDIS 130 CP. Caroserie autoportanta, suspensii independente, blocant central si reductor. Are si automata in 5 trepte, dar nu e prea avansata. In off-road oricum e mai bun convertizorul de cuplu decat ambreiajul dublu, ca nu se prajeste. Parca Sorin avea una. -------------------- 1994 Opel Astra F 1.8 GSi 125 cp
2004 Opel Astra G 1.6i 103 cp 2007 Opel Astra G 1.6i 105 cp |
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Apr 19 2011, 01:52 PM
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Super Moderator Group: Moderator Posts: 8.261 Joined: 11-November 02 From: ORADEA Member No.: 7.754 |
Daca nu aveai cerinta obligatorie pt cutie automata (care mie personal mi se pare neindicata la un 4x4), BlueFlame are cam toate cerintele tale (inclusiv garda, care este de 15,3cm)
-------------------- OCTAVIA 1.8T 4X4 - Powered by Dimsport, Milotec, Forge, EBC and Ferodo Racing ! Detalii despre masina mea si Skoda in general pe FORUMUL SKODA-CLUB ! Uneori Dumnezeu ne taie craca de sub picioare ca sa ne aducem aminte ca putem zbura. "What makes you wise in life is not the success, it's when you go down and come back" |
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Apr 19 2011, 01:54 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
forester 2.0X automat . e un fel de lesinatura pe roti da' nu te intereseaza 0-100. belea
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Apr 19 2011, 02:08 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 10.684 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 23.122 |
RAV4 nu am gasit cand am cautat pe mobile.ro masini AWD pana in 10.000 euro cu automata... in plus parca nu se poate decupla ESP-ul si din cauza asta uneori ramai blocat in zapada/noroi ca nu te lasa sa dai si tu in gol putin (uneori la Touareg (e drept ca asta are gume allweather si nu dedicate de iarna) a fost nevoie sa decuplez ESP-ul pentru a urca). Deci mai adaugam o conditie - sa aiba ESP/TC decuplabil...
Duster ar fi cea mai buna solutie, dar trebuie automata. Nu negociem la automata. -------------------- Mercedes C320 CDI 4-matic
Audi A3 Sportback 1.9 TDI "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." -Jeremy Clarkson |
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Apr 19 2011, 02:09 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
read my lips : FORESTER 2.0X automat . il iei ieftin si e genial .
VARIANTA 2 : EVO X automat . 15cm garda la sol , automat si poti sa uiti de C This post has been edited by G e o r g e: Apr 19 2011, 02:09 PM -------------------- |
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Apr 19 2011, 02:17 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 10.684 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 23.122 |
Doru, intr-adevar la a ta lipsa mare e automata, ori asta e foarte importanta in cazul de fata.
@George, forester e o varianta foarte tentanta... problema e dupa cum zicea seri ca nu exista service in oradea... This post has been edited by HalbaSus: Apr 19 2011, 02:19 PM -------------------- Mercedes C320 CDI 4-matic
Audi A3 Sportback 1.9 TDI "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." -Jeremy Clarkson |
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Apr 19 2011, 02:25 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
si pentru ce ti-ar trebui service ? pentru schimbul de ulei ?
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Apr 19 2011, 02:28 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 13.667 Joined: 30-June 04 From: Europa Member No.: 28.666 |
Pt 5000km/an probabilitatea sa ai nevoie de service e foarte scazuta, cred. Iar uleiul si trei filtre stie probabil sa le schimbe orice ucenic.
Volvo XC70 e AWD si are si automata. O automata destul de lenta, totusi, insa despre awd se spunea ca destul de OK. Si nu e chiar suv, e un soi de crossover. N-am idee daca e deconectabil ESP-ul. -------------------- Scuter 108cc... benzina, automat
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Apr 19 2011, 02:37 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
si pentru ce ti-ar trebui service ? pentru schimbul de ulei ? +1 Daca chiar ai nevoie, vii la Cluj -------------------- BMW X3 3.0D
Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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Apr 19 2011, 03:04 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.042 Joined: 1-June 07 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 107.409 |
s-au ieftinit asa mult platformele? Mai sunt si evenimente nedorite, gen accident, care fac sa fie foarte inconvenabila deplasarea in alt oras pentru service.
Eu votez pentru Evo X cu automata. De fapt, daca gasesti unul bun la 10000 sa mi-l dai mie. Te implor! De fapt, daca gasesti unul bun la 10000 sa mi-l dai mie. Te implor! Adica: "sa mi-l vinzi mie"...... Brusc am devenit cersetor de lux This post has been edited by mike.omega: Apr 19 2011, 05:13 PM |
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Apr 19 2011, 03:24 PM
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Around Group: Membri Posts: 1.476 Joined: 6-November 07 From: Timisoara Member No.: 115.360 |
@Halba
am gasit pe un forum cum se face disable la VSC la toy(b)ota rav4 1. Use the press brake/hand brake method described here; Begin with the parking brake off and the engine off. Start engine. Apply parking brake and press the foot brake twice then let the parking brake off again. Press the foot brake and pull the parking brake on and off twice then let the foot brake off again. Finally pull the parking brake on and press the brake twice. The VSC light will now come on and stay on until you switch the ignition off again after which the VSC defaults to on again. Nush daca functioneaza dar e de incercat -------------------- G,RAV,5,4
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Apr 19 2011, 03:36 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 10.684 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 23.122 |
@pmhoria, esti sigur ca e atat de simplu ? nu trebuie facut si un dans ceremonial in jurul masinii dar OBLIGATORIU in timp ce canta melodia It's raining man cantata de Gloria Gaynor ?
@lucian daca gasesc Evo X la 10.000 in stare buna atunci schimb A3-ul si il iau eu Service local e destul de important, stiu ca suna improbabil (ca doar e japoneza si subaru pe deasupra) dar ce naiba fac daca intr-o zi nu mai porneste ? Sau o lovesc si nu mai pornese... oare service-urile de cartier se pricep la motoare boxer ? Ma rog, nu e o chestiune obligatorie, deci nu le exclud din lista dar este un dezavantaj major. @J. Kw. Volvo XC70 e o idee buna... il trecem pe lista. -------------------- Mercedes C320 CDI 4-matic
Audi A3 Sportback 1.9 TDI "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." -Jeremy Clarkson |
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Apr 19 2011, 03:40 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
Tucson
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Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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Apr 19 2011, 03:59 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
@Halba am gasit pe un forum cum se face disable la VSC la toy(b)ota rav4 1. Use the press brake/hand brake method described here; Begin with the parking brake off and the engine off. Start engine. Apply parking brake and press the foot brake twice then let the parking brake off again. Press the foot brake and pull the parking brake on and off twice then let the foot brake off again. Finally pull the parking brake on and press the brake twice. The VSC light will now come on and stay on until you switch the ignition off again after which the VSC defaults to on again. Nush daca functioneaza dar e de incercat asta e examen de doctorat -------------------- |
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Apr 19 2011, 04:04 PM
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Around Group: Membri Posts: 1.476 Joined: 6-November 07 From: Timisoara Member No.: 115.360 |
Hai buei ca e simplu .. nu conteaza ca blochezi traficu.. important e ca se aprinde becu'
This post has been edited by pmhoria: Apr 19 2011, 04:05 PM -------------------- G,RAV,5,4
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Apr 19 2011, 04:16 PM
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mashinutza Group: Membri Posts: 2.410 Joined: 30-April 05 From: Internet Member No.: 45.702 |
Vezi ca noul Daihatsu Terios are cutie automata si motor benzina de 1.5 si diferential cred.
Cauta la sh unul din prima aparitie a lor (destul de recenta, minim 2006 cred. asta e fara automata Terios Italia Daca faci compromis la cele mai vechi, uite aici This post has been edited by RUE: Apr 19 2011, 04:17 PM -------------------- Laureate 1.4 aproape PLUS
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