Subaru AWD, (tipuri de transmisie & diferentiale) |
This topic is about Subaru AWD, the author, hdi, wrote about: Despre diferentialul spate OBD. Nu scrie nimic pe el cu exceptia unui 4021 stantat fix pe burta. M-am linistit. Si acum pentru cunoscatori. Cu putea s ... To read more just scroll down
Subaru AWD, (tipuri de transmisie & diferentiale) |
May 13 2009, 04:51 PM
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subarugeot Group: Membri Posts: 1.484 Joined: 11-December 08 Member No.: 118.741 |
Nu scrie nimic pe el cu exceptia unui "4021" stantat fix pe burta. M-am linistit. Si acum pentru cunoscatori. Cu putea spate suspendata, invartind de roata din dr. intr-un sens, roata stg. se va roti in sens opus. Va spune ceva chestia asta? La puntea fata face exact la fel. Pe fata nu mi se pare ca a zis cineva ca n-ar fi diferential deschis. -------------------- スバル Subaru Outback 2.0D AC 150cp Obsidian Black Pearl - Peugeot 307 1.6 HDI 110cp Rouge Lucifer
Mandru posesor al uneia dintre ultimele KATANA autentice. Ce au facut dupa? Doar arme de foc ... "Unii au impresia ca au tractiune integrala altii chiar o au!" razvan p. |
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May 13 2009, 05:02 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
deschis .
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May 13 2009, 05:31 PM
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subarugeot Group: Membri Posts: 1.484 Joined: 11-December 08 Member No.: 118.741 |
deschis . exact! Iti vine sa crezi ca seful de service imi spunea senin ca este LSD? -------------------- スバル Subaru Outback 2.0D AC 150cp Obsidian Black Pearl - Peugeot 307 1.6 HDI 110cp Rouge Lucifer
Mandru posesor al uneia dintre ultimele KATANA autentice. Ce au facut dupa? Doar arme de foc ... "Unii au impresia ca au tractiune integrala altii chiar o au!" razvan p. |
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May 13 2009, 05:36 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
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May 13 2009, 05:43 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.818 Joined: 30-September 08 From: Odorheiu Secuiesc Member No.: 118.083 |
@Mircea Oservatiile tale referitoare la LSD de pe Forester sunt identice cu cele citite de mine pe forumul de specialitate maghiar. This post has been edited by pista: May 13 2009, 05:46 PM -------------------- |
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May 13 2009, 05:44 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
imi permiteti ?
WRX , XT samd , turbatele pe benzina au spate LSD si 3.0 urile STI are fata si spate LSD restul au deschise fata + spate . foresterul 2.0X nu stiu exact ce are spate. in rest impreza, legy, OB toate au fata si spate deschise. -------------------- |
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May 13 2009, 05:44 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
@hdi: LSD "emulat"
Am verificat si eu faza cu invartitul, si, pe spate, rotile se invart in aceeasi directie. Deci LSD is there and it works -------------------- BMW X3 3.0D
Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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May 13 2009, 05:45 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
@hdi: LSD "emulat" Am verificat si eu faza cu invartitul, si, pe spate, rotile se invart in aceeasi directie. Deci LSD is there and it works QED @HDI , sa fi bagat in viteza si miscat de o roata sa vezi ce misto e atunci . -------------------- |
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May 13 2009, 05:50 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
Varful transmisiei la Subaru este pus pe STi. Si pleaca de la cutie (care suporta puteri mult mai mari decat stock, spre deosebire de WRX, care se poate "tuna" peste 300CP usor, dar nu tine cutia), diferentialul central este de tip DCCD controlabil manual (se poate bloca in multe pozitii), diferentialul spate este Torsen (nu stiu daca are autoblocaj), iar pe fata are un LSD visco (care cred ca face treaba mai bine decat cel de pe spate de la Forester ), fara a imprima masinii un caracter supravirator sau subvirator.
Transmisia de pe STi e o bijuterie a tehnicii in adevaratul sens al cuvantului. -------------------- BMW X3 3.0D
Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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May 13 2009, 05:51 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.818 Joined: 30-September 08 From: Odorheiu Secuiesc Member No.: 118.083 |
@George
OBK din semnatura mea are LSD pe spate. -------------------- |
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May 13 2009, 05:51 PM
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subarugeot Group: Membri Posts: 1.484 Joined: 11-December 08 Member No.: 118.741 |
@hdi: LSD "emulat" Am verificat si eu faza cu invartitul, si, pe spate, rotile se invart in aceeasi directie. Deci LSD is there and it works La tine e alta mancare de peste. Adica, de tot respectul. Noi avem in compensatie VDC-ul, sau LSD emulat cum zici tu This post has been edited by hdi: May 13 2009, 05:52 PM -------------------- スバル Subaru Outback 2.0D AC 150cp Obsidian Black Pearl - Peugeot 307 1.6 HDI 110cp Rouge Lucifer
Mandru posesor al uneia dintre ultimele KATANA autentice. Ce au facut dupa? Doar arme de foc ... "Unii au impresia ca au tractiune integrala altii chiar o au!" razvan p. |
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May 13 2009, 05:54 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
VDC-ul ala isi face treaba foarte bine. Iti spun ca in caz de "punte incrucisata", mai repede iese un OBK decat un Forester (modelul vechi, nu cel nou care are VDC).
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Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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May 13 2009, 05:55 PM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
@George OBK din semnatura mea are LSD pe spate. hmmm ... strange ... -------------------- |
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May 13 2009, 06:01 PM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
VDC-ul (ESP) va deveni obligatoriu oricum. Si va fi indispensabil de pe orice masina, ca ABS-ul. Nu toata lumea are acces/vrea sa faca o scoala de pilotaj, sa stie cum sa scoata o masina din situatii limita, in care, la noi, intri fara sa vrei din cauza infrastructurii/numarului mare de masini/permise de AG
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Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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May 13 2009, 08:16 PM
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Prieten cu WMZ-ul mare Group: Membri Posts: 623 Joined: 16-January 09 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 119.002 |
Greu domnilor, greu ...
Din cate stiu pe OBK sunt 3 tipuri de diferntiala (NO, NC, LSD), modelul lui Pista este ultimul (daca nu ma insel) model cu LSD pe spate, dupa care vine OBKd care are pe spate diferential NO, discutia despre motivul acestei alegeri e prin paginile anterioare, diferentialul NC nu se mai foloseste de mult (asa zice unii) ... ...eu am avut ocazia sa probez minunatul LSD "emulat" si pot sa zic ca le-a reusit si asta, nu stiu cum de le ies toate... ...probat pe o panta de cca 35-40 grade acoperita cu iarba umeda lunga de aprox 40-50 m, 6 incercari din care primele 3 cu VDC OFF din care 1 am ajuns sus si 3 cu VDC ON din care 3 am ajuns sus... poate nu e numai din cauza VDC, poate am mai capata si eu experienta cu panta, puse una peste alta pe mine aproape m-a convins.... This post has been edited by andrei5130: May 13 2009, 08:19 PM -------------------- Subaru, Subaru si dinnou Subaru
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May 14 2009, 09:39 AM
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workaholic * * * * * * Group: Moderator Posts: 11.052 Joined: 4-August 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 14.854 |
andrei, ce imi placea la subaru era exact pareta mecanica . adica mecanica si doar mecanica fara electronica. acum se dau si ei dupa trend .
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May 14 2009, 10:14 AM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.818 Joined: 30-September 08 From: Odorheiu Secuiesc Member No.: 118.083 |
La intalnirea de iarna ar fi bine sa testam mai amanuntit diferentele intre OBK 2.5i cu reductor, cu LSD spate, fara VDC si OBK 2.0D fara reductor, fara LSD spate, cu VDC.
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May 14 2009, 10:21 AM
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specialist Group: Membri Posts: 1.805 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Cluj-Napoca (Cluj) Member No.: 104.894 |
La intalnirea de iarna ar fi bine sa testam mai amanuntit diferentele intre OBK 2.5i cu reductor, cu LSD spate, fara VDC si OBK 2.0D fara reductor, fara LSD spate, cu VDC. Ar fi interesant sa mergem la Madaras si in vara. Chiar daca o sa ploua(poate chiar mai bine) sa vedem pana unde putem ajunge fara zapada This post has been edited by Mircea104901: May 14 2009, 10:22 AM -------------------- BMW X3 3.0D
Ex Forester 2.0X MY07 Don’t argue with Idiots... They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. “If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.” Albert Einstein |
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May 14 2009, 12:24 PM
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Prieten cu WMZ-ul mare Group: Membri Posts: 623 Joined: 16-January 09 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 119.002 |
andrei, ce imi placea la subaru era exact pareta mecanica . adica mecanica si doar mecanica fara electronica. acum se dau si ei dupa trend . Intradevar asta e un mare "defect" datul asta dupa trend, numai ca Impretza nu a primit 5 stelute la NCAP pe motiv ca nu ate acest VDC chiar daca se aseza mai bine in curbe decat multe alte "petarde" aveau sisteme asemanatoare VDC. Pista, intradevar ar fi interesant de vazut cum percepem noi diferentele dintre cele 2 diferentiale, un mare dezavantaj al VDC isi face simtita prezenta la plecarile de pe loc cand nu muta forta pe roata care are aderenta, daca ai nesansa sa ai cele 2 roti care au cuplat in aer (sau fara aderenta ) nu e prea vesel... This post has been edited by andrei5130: May 14 2009, 12:25 PM -------------------- Subaru, Subaru si dinnou Subaru
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Jul 4 2009, 03:32 PM
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sofer profesionist Group: Membri Posts: 101 Joined: 25-January 09 From: GRECIA Member No.: 119.070 |
La intalnirea de iarna ar fi bine sa testam mai amanuntit diferentele intre OBK 2.5i cu reductor, cu LSD spate, fara VDC si OBK 2.0D fara reductor, fara LSD spate, cu VDC. pista, outback diesel ARE lsd pe spate...outback-ul automat nu are...cutia de viteze in 5 trepte de la outback e standard legata de diferential lsd pe spate...se si simte cind intri periculos in curbe si accelerezi la jumatea cubei... |
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