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post Aug 25 2005, 08:51 PM
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http://www.honda.com.ro/calculator/rezulta...eaza=Calculeaza

Foloseste calculatorul de leasing de pe www.honda.com.ro!

Fata de o Octavia la acelasi pret, cu acelasi leasing, cu acelasi avans, la Honda platesti in plus 6% din valoarea CIP!


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eu nu am , dar poti face pe orice calculator de la o banca smile.gif

toate siturile bancilor au asa ceva tongue.gif bagi masina , bagi suma creditata iti da simularea smile.gif


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post Aug 25 2005, 09:46 PM
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pe cat de entuziasmat eram de honda asta pe atat de sifonat sunt dupa ce am aflat de la un dealer cam cat costa.m-a pus dracu siam intrebat cam cat m-ar costa 2.0 benzina .cam......27000 euro cu toate taxele.frate asta-i jaf la drumu mare.dupa care mi-a prezentat avantajele lesingului.fara taxe vamale si accize ca sa-ti ia ochii.dar oricum si asa ajugi la 25000 pe 48 luni cu avans 30%.s-a mai spulberat o iluzie.deci clar octavia.deja incep sa ma intreb cum de mai vad accorduri pe strada ca la banni astia iti iei lejer bmw.pacat!


Dar de ce clar octavia???La alta masina nu te ai gandit......Stiu ca acum o sa spuneti ca topicu era despre honda sau octavia,dar zic eu daca omu e in dilema (ma refer la taxe) ma gandeam sa i mai dau o optiune....
La un avensis te ai gandit? :angel: ......Din cate stiu pretul incepe de la 14 500 cip la varianta standard cu motor 1.6 (110 CP) ( cei drept cam mic) si cel de 1.8 (129 CP) la 16 500 cip (amandoua benzina) care are o gramada de chestii pe ea,inclusiv VSC (controlul stabilitatii).....

Si sa nu mai zic ( nu ca nu ati stii!!!) ca nu "poseda" taxe gen made in japan....


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la 15 500 are accord smile.gif care e peste avensis .


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la 15 500 are accord smile.gif care e peste avensis .


1.15 500 cu reducere de 1500 euro sau 2000 ,cat o fi....

2. m am dat cu accord si sunt posesor de avensis.Singurul lucru care il are honda si nu toyota este acel demaraj extraordinar.....in rest nimic,este chiar sub la materialele folosite ,la inbinari etc,cel putin asa mi s a parut mie...si sa nu mai zic ca honda nu are comp.de bord...( e ceva asemanator la ceasurile de bord...)

3.pana sa mi i au avensis si eu m am uitat la accord,dar ca si la ceilalti m au dat inapoi taxele (eu am luat o cash),si inca ceva important ce avea avensis la 20 000 euro ( cea cu motor de 2.0) cip era la honda la vreo 23 000 cip ma refer la toate sistemele de siguranta ( ABS,EBD sau BA,VSC) la avensis +cele 9 airbaguri= 5 stele euroncap cu cele 34 puncte adica cele mai multe din clasa ei...Bine honda avea acel motor de 2.4......dar si un consum urban pe masura ...(12.4 l/100 km)


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post Aug 25 2005, 10:40 PM
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post Aug 25 2005, 10:46 PM
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dragii mosului nu vorbesc din auzite. leasingul de care zic eu e pe 48luni deci atentie nu 24 de luni.avans 30% inseamna 4692 euro.in tabelul pdf primit de la asko rata lunara ajunge la 430 euro.inmultiti asta cu 48 si o sa va dea 20000plus avansul 4700 euro. =25000.da! rata simpla e 260 euro dar cu capital care nu stiu ce e ,asigurare,dobanda,tva=430euro. ouchhhhh!
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post Aug 25 2005, 11:26 PM
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Du-te la Carpati//1 Asko are cel mai mic discount, iar personalul este total neinstruit!


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post Aug 26 2005, 09:07 AM
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inafara de demarajul ala blink.gif

pai si ala nu conteaza ?

motoarele toyota sunt motoare bune , dar si honda face super motoare ! recunoaste .

eu toyota o vad mai jos decat honda . no offence . este parerea mea smile.gif


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post Aug 26 2005, 10:14 AM
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sau mai bine zis, Avensis-ul e mai jos decat Accord-ul.. sa nu uitam ca Hondei i se zice BMW-ul japonezilor.. si sa nu uitam cate premii au luat anul acesta cu noile lor motoare..


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post Aug 26 2005, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(G e o r g e)
inafara de demarajul ala blink.gif

pai si ala nu conteaza ?

motoarele toyota sunt motoare bune , dar si honda face super motoare ! recunoaste .

eu toyota o vad mai jos decat honda . no offence . este parerea mea smile.gif


Daca ai fost atent chiar am recunoscut ca orice motor de la honda este dupa parerea mea "criminal" ( iti ofera senazatii ce poate numai Bmw iti poate oferi),dar inca cred, ca la achizitionarea unei masini nu te gandesti numai la senzatii...ci iei in considerare si celelalte lucruri pe care le ofera acea masina la pretu " x "...Asa ma duceam si dadeam 30 - 40 000 euro pe un Subaru Impreza WRX (ca tot esti fan...smile.gif....) si mi luam masina de curse,de i asteptam pe toti la semafor sa fac liniute....Sa fim seriosi............
Dupa mine toyota are preturi mult mai bune decat honda...(cel putin in Romania)....asa ca pt buzunarele noastre.....in loc sa ne gandim ce siguranta ofera masina x,noi..................

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post Aug 26 2005, 10:33 AM
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un WRX este 22700CIP. un STI este 29500 CIP !

pai vezi ca am si eu un topic smile.gif
de ce am ales o legacy in detrimentul unui WRX . sau i nfine , o clasa medie, legacy , accord ... sunt inca nedecis wink.gif


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QUOTE(G e o r g e)
un WRX este 22700CIP. un STI este 29500 CIP !

pai vezi ca am si eu un topic smile.gif
de ce am ales o legacy in detrimentul unui WRX . sau i nfine , o clasa medie, legacy , accord ... sunt inca nedecis wink.gif


Am observat....dar mie nu mi plac,si nu cunosc atat de mult automobilele din gama subaru ,fara suparare.....Deci, nu pot vorbi decat despre masinile pe care le cunosc sau am mers cu ele,despre care am o idee sau mai multe.... :boxing:


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post Aug 26 2005, 03:38 PM
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Catalin 53688,

Cind ti-am scris mai sus de preturi ai spus ceva de genul "mai fratilor ce tot ii dati cu preturile! "

Pai ii dam, ca depinde cit sunt dispusi parintii tai, ( daca am inteles bine ), sa plateasca pe o masina.

Eu intre cele doua as cumpara Accord. Platesc in plus dar traiesc si prin placerea de a conduce ceva deosebit.Dar eu vorbesc aici de mine.

Daca ai tai, repet ,vor sa mai ramina si cu ceva bani dupa achizitia unei masini sa se indrepte spre ceva cu preturi mai mici.

Octavia e o masina f.buna pentru Romania si nu numai.


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post Aug 27 2005, 12:26 PM
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George,cred ca sunt destui "masochisti" care vor sa-si ia o masina cu banii jos.Eu ma numar printre ei.Stiu ce inseamna sa lucrezi cu bancile si societatile de leasing.Este corect ca e mai avantajos sa-ti iei masinile fabricate in afara U.E in leasing pe firma,dar ce ne facem daca vrem sa o luam cu banii jos?
Facem un compromis,ne luam o masina de la concurenta care nu are taxe vamale.


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post Aug 28 2005, 06:28 PM
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sau asa .

de acord cu tine . doar ca eu am ceva pentru anumite marci japoneze.

nu contest ca si in UE se fac masini bune biggrin.gif


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3.pana sa mi i au avensis si eu m am uitat la accord,dar ca si la ceilalti m au dat inapoi taxele (eu am luat o cash),si inca ceva important ce avea avensis la 20 000 euro ( cea cu motor de 2.0) cip era la honda la vreo 23 000 cip ma refer la toate sistemele de siguranta ( ABS,EBD sau BA,VSC) la avensis +cele 9 airbaguri= 5 stele euroncap cu cele 34 puncte adica cele mai multe din clasa ei...Bine honda avea acel motor de 2.4......dar si un consum urban pe masura ...(12.4 l/100 km)

Accord merita comparat cu BMW seria 3 nu cu Avensis, Passat, Vectra,e tc. Cu O2 e chiar profanare! Si atunci nu o sa ti se mai para mult cit costa daca vrei sa iei cu banii jos. Iar in leasing ajungi la un cost total apropiat de clasa medie fara pretentii de lux!

Accordul de 2.4 are in standard tapiterie din piele, este un motor foarte bun. De altfel, si cel de 2.0 este peste 2.0 de la Avensis. Iar pretul CIP este de 22k, cu discount ajungi la 20k!!!

Eu am mers cu cel de 2.4 cu cutie automata si inspira o senzatie de confort la turatii normale. Atunci cind am calcat acceleratia la fund inspira sportivitate la MAX + siguranta (sta extrem de bine pe drum).

Finisarea interioara tot spre BMW este, mie mi s-a parut peste modelul anterior de Serie 3.

Eu sincer m-am dus pentru motorul de 2.0, mi se pare arhi suficient pentru mine. Inconvenientul este ca nu exista optionale, pentru motorizarea de 2.0 exista un set de dotari, cea de 2.4 avind in plus ESP (it's a must!), proiectoare, piele, etc.

Mie cel de 2.0 cu ESP si proiectoare mi-ar fi ajuns, din pacate nu poti sa configurezi masina. Exista si un avantaj al faptului ca sint standard dotarile, nu astepti sa se fabrice "masina ta", gasesti in stoc.


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Inconvenientul este ca nu exista optionale,cea de 2.4 avind in plus ESP (it's a must!)
Mie cel de 2.0 cu ESP si proiectoare mi-ar fi ajuns, din pacate nu poti sa configurezi masina.


Daca vrea cu tot dinadinsul Accord, atunci mai bine sa astepte 2006, iar "problemele" insirate de tine, vor fi de domeniul trecutului:

Updated Accord for 2006

Interior and exterior design changes
Voice recognition satellite navigation
Advanced Driving Assist System introduction
6 speed transmission for 2.2 i-CTDi engine


Also making its debut at the Frankfurt Motor show is the updated Accord. The award winning premium/quality D-segment contender has undergone a facelift for 2006. As well as exterior and interior design alterations, the new Accord is injected with a host of significant technologies, most notably Honda’s Advanced Driving Assist Systems (ADAS)1 comprising of Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) and Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) technology. It also gets a voice recognition satellite navigation system with the RDS (Radio Data System) function, which helps the driver avoid road congestions.

ADAS is available as an option on the 2.4 Executive automatic right-hand-drive model.

Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS)

This technology is a European first and supports the driver in maintaining the car within the same lane. The LKAS identifies the boundaries of the vehicle’s lane by processing images from a camera mounted behind the windscreen. It then calculates and provides the optimum steering torque to help keep the vehicle in the centre of the lane. The system can work at speeds which suit European road usage conditions (45mph to 112mph).

The system automatically switches itself off after a warning if it fails to recognize driver’s input on the steering wheel, in order not to promote hands free driving.

Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)

The ACC assesses driving conditions using data from a millimetre-wave radar—mounted inside the front grille of the car—that measures the distance to the vehicle ahead, along with data from speed and yaw rate sensors. It automatically regulates both the speed of the car and its distance to the vehicle in front, thereby reducing the burden of motorway (or similar road) driving and enhancing driver comfort and safety.

For a fuller explanation on both LKAS and ACC technology please refer to the safety section of this information pack.

After a desired speed is set, the system will maintain that speed as long as it detects no vehicles in front of the car. If a vehicle is detected, the system automatically slows the car down and keeps it at a predetermined distance. Once that vehicle changes lane or the distance increases again and the system can no longer detect it, then the previously set speed is resumed.



Other modifications

The main exterior alterations are concentrated on the front area of both the saloon and Tourer versions of the Accord. These include a new front bumper, grille, hood and headlights. Both body styles also get new designs for the 16” and 17” alloy wheels.

Unique to the saloon are the rear styling changes which are a new rear bumper, rear combination lights, and a new side sill garnish. The Tourer also gets altered side sill garnish and chrome plating of quarter moulding, as well as roof rails, now longer than the outgoing model, as standard equipment.

The changes inside the cabin are common to both body styles. The instrument panel has been newly designed and now includes a three-meter cluster being illuminated in a different colour. The steering wheel has a thicker grip and there is a subtle addition of a metal coloured ornamental ring around the horn pad. The shift knob has a new design on both automatic and manual transmissions.

Among the new equipment available is a voice recognition RDS navigation system. Through a series of set voice commands, the navigation system can be operated by the driver without taking his eyes from the road. Another useful addition to the navigation system is the RDS function; the system can recognise live traffic hotspots and recalculate the ideal route so as to avoid the congestion. There is also a hands-free telephone system with steering wheel mounted operational buttons and an automatic radio mute function whenever the telephone is in operation. A nice touch on the EX grade is the volume of the sound system being linked to the speed of the vehicle, so the higher the speed, the higher the volume of the music.

In terms of powertrains, the new Accord has the same engine line up as before; however, the 2.0 litre i-VTEC engine has undergone some changes to enhance driveability. It now utilises DBW (drive-by-wire) enabling both the maximum power and torque to be attained at 500rpm lower engine speed than before. The Accords powered by the award winning i-CTDi engine will now all benefit from a 6th forward gear.


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mda, dar discounturile pentru modelu 2005 vor disparea...

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Dupa mine toyota are preturi mult mai bune decat honda...(cel putin in Romania)....asa ca pt buzunarele noastre


adevarat. insa in anumite cazuri se merita sa dai banii respectivi in plus pt. o Honda. depinde ce vrei de la masina.


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3.pana sa mi i au avensis si eu m am uitat la accord,dar ca si la ceilalti m au dat inapoi taxele (eu am luat o cash),si inca ceva important ce avea avensis la 20 000 euro ( cea cu motor de 2.0) cip era la honda la vreo 23 000 cip ma refer la toate sistemele de siguranta ( ABS,EBD sau BA,VSC) la avensis +cele 9 airbaguri= 5 stele euroncap cu cele 34 puncte adica cele mai multe din clasa ei...Bine honda avea acel motor de 2.4......dar si un consum urban pe masura ...(12.4 l/100 km)

Accord merita comparat cu BMW seria 3 nu cu Avensis, Passat, Vectra,e tc. Cu O2 e chiar profanare! Si atunci nu o sa ti se mai para mult cit costa daca vrei sa iei cu banii jos. Iar in leasing ajungi la un cost total apropiat de clasa medie fara pretentii de lux!

Accordul de 2.4 are in standard tapiterie din piele, este un motor foarte bun. De altfel, si cel de 2.0 este peste 2.0 de la Avensis. Iar pretul CIP este de 22k, cu discount ajungi la 20k!!!

Eu am mers cu cel de 2.4 cu cutie automata si inspira o senzatie de confort la turatii normale. Atunci cind am calcat acceleratia la fund inspira sportivitate la MAX + siguranta (sta extrem de bine pe drum).

Finisarea interioara tot spre BMW este, mie mi s-a parut peste modelul anterior de Serie 3.

Eu sincer m-am dus pentru motorul de 2.0, mi se pare arhi suficient pentru mine. Inconvenientul este ca nu exista optionale, pentru motorizarea de 2.0 exista un set de dotari, cea de 2.4 avind in plus ESP (it's a must!), proiectoare, piele, etc.

Mie cel de 2.0 cu ESP si proiectoare mi-ar fi ajuns, din pacate nu poti sa configurezi masina. Exista si un avantaj al faptului ca sint standard dotarile, nu astepti sa se fabrice "masina ta", gasesti in stoc.


Nu contest ca honda, chiar 2.0 benzina are motorul mai puternic decat avensisu....Dar am incercat sa fac un compromis intre performantele motorului si dotarile oferite....Ia gandeste ce ofera avensis la 20 mii ddp,cu motor 1.8 (130cp).Luand o pe rand, fara sa fiu subiectiv,materialele folosite pe avensis mi se par peste cele folosite la accord, si asta o spun la modul cel mai serios conoscand ambele masini f f f bine...
Avensis are toate sistemele de franare (abs si ba), vsc (controlul stabilitatii) cea ce honda ofera la motorizarea 2.4 care este vreo 21 500 cip (cat o fi ddp nici nu vreau sa ma gandesc). Din ce stiu accord de 2.0 are suspensii sport si derapeaza f greu dar nu echivaleaza totusi cu vsc ul....Si asta la prima vedere, fara sa le i au pe rand .....
Dar recunosc, ca daca honda avea fabrica precum avensis in europa,si nu poseda "taxe made in japan" nici nu mai stateam pe ganduri si mi trageam un accord .... pt ca este mai pe varsta mea... blush.gif


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