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De ce v-ati putea lipsi in viata ? |
Sep 19 2007, 06:15 PM
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Subaru Anti-Hero Group: Moderator Posts: 5.323 Joined: 13-May 04 From: F 1 World Member No.: 25.368 |
Poate nu ati citit bine: VIATA FARA HIRTIE HIGIENICA in inima New York-ului ! QUOTE BBC NEWS
US family tries life without toilet paper By Kim Ghattas BBC News, New York It is mid-afternoon in an airy, lower-Manhattan flat, on the ninth floor of a posh-looking building with a doorman. It is a bit dark and there are no lights on. There is a strange quiet feel to the flat, perhaps due to the lack of any appliances - no fridge humming, no TV interference, even no air conditioning, though it is hot and humid outside. Walk into the bathroom, and you will notice that there is no toilet paper, no bottles of shampoo or toiletries. In the kitchen, berries and cheese are laid out on the counter and there are candles on the dining table. This is the home of No-Impact Man, aka Colin Beavan, who describes himself on his blog as a "guilty liberal who finally snaps, swears off plastic... turns off his power... and while living in NYC turns into a tree-hugging lunatic who tries to save the polar bears". While there are a lot of people who think that we're freaks, our friends have been really supportive, and they do come over and play Scrabble with us in the dark Michelle Beavan He has dragged his wife, Michelle, and young daughter Isabella, along for the ride. "The concept is that we should have no net environmental impact, which is, of course, technically not feasible," says Colin. "So the idea is that we would reduce our negative impact and increase our positive impact." Cutting the trash The 43-year-old writer says he is not manically trying to offset everything, but he tries to get involved in environmentally friendly or sustainable projects around the city. The first stage of the one-year experiment was to reduce rubbish. The family buys only second-hand goods and takes a hamper to the market. Colin uses a glass jar he picked up from the trash as a reusable cup when he orders take-out coffee or juice. Food is bought every other day from the nearby farmers' market on Union Square, and put in the hamper without wrapping. The family then stopped using all carbon-producing transport, so they now walk or cycle. They then shut down electricity in the flat - no more dishwasher, fridge or washing machine. Now they are trying to reduce the amount of water they use, from the 80-100 gallons (303-379 litres) a day used by the average American, down to seven. The more the experiment advances, the more drastic the changes become. "I was a typical American consumer - I shopped a lot, I ate most of my meals in take-out containers, I took cabs everywhere," said Michelle, a journalist with a weekly business magazine. Although she still goes to the office every day (on her bike), uses the elevator to get to the 43rd floor, turns on her computer and uses a mobile phone, she has had to redesign her whole life. "It has been a shock to the system." Michelle admits there were times when she regretted agreeing to the no-impact experiment, but says it has been one of the best adventures of her adult life. "In essence, the project has really slowed down time, which is pretty amazing considering how fast time has become, and especially with us living in New York - you come home to a quiet, soothing cocoon." Worm farm For news from the outside world, there is the solar-powered crank-up radio, although the family rarely uses it. A solar panel on the roof provides power for a laptop and one light. From the kitchen, Colin brings out a wooden box with air holes on the sides. He opens the lid and scoops up a handful of dark brown matter that looks and smells like earth. In fact, it's a combination of fruit and vegetable peels and worms. "This is the compost box, the worms take the food scraps and they turn it into compost," explains Colin. There are many places all over the world that don't use toilet paper ... it's a lot more hygienic Colin Beavan What happens in the toilet, where there's no toilet paper? "What I'll tell you, is this: There are many places all over the world that don't use toilet paper," is all he will say at first. He then adds that because people wash, it is a lot more hygienic. For detergents, laundry, body soap and toothpaste, they use a combination of vegetable oil, baking soda, vinegar and borax. The Beavans realise that not everybody can afford to embark on a similar radical experiment or live like that long-term. They also make clear that it is an experiment, and they have had their doubts about what works and what really makes a difference. They insist they do not want to force their ideas on anyone else, but they feel happy about the difference it has made to their own lives. Their life is now centred around the kitchen table, as well as activities such as riding bikes together. "While there are a lot of people who think that we're freaks, our friends have been really supportive, and they do come over and play Scrabble with us in the dark," Michelle says. Creature comforts But is it really possible to have no impact on the environment while living in a city where any resident is inevitably part of the system? "There's no question that this city has an infrastructure and some of the impact of the city itself should get credited to us," said Colin. "But the fact is that it is actually easier to live an efficient life in this city, and this is well documented. Here in New York, we emit about a third of the carbon per member of the population of the rest of the country, and it's because of the efficiencies of scale of this city." We're not going to bring the air-conditioner back. We're going to continue to ride our bikes everywhere. The fridge will come back, but will be used minimally Colin Beavan The Beavans say that when the experiment is over, they will not simply revert to their old way of living. "We're not going to bring the air-conditioner back. We're going to continue to ride our bikes everywhere. The fridge will come back, but will be used minimally," says Colin. Michelle cannot wait to turn on the washing machine again. Hand-washing clothes has been the toughest change and a chore that has meant laundry is often not done, though Isabella enjoys stomping the clothes in the bathtub. Colin is planning to write a book about his year as No-Impact Man - his publishers are looking at sustainable ways of publishing. It may be a worthwhile experiment in the eyes of some, or a total waste of time by a tree hugger for others. But whatever you think of the Beavans, somehow when you leave their flat it feels like there is only one option - to walk down the nine flights of stairs. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/7000991.stm Published: 2007/09/19 11:20:39 GMT © BBC MMVII Raspund si eu mai incolo. -------------------- Schumi drive it like you stole it !
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Sep 19 2007, 07:17 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 6.522 Joined: 12-May 04 From: Constanta Member No.: 25.186 |
Or fi inventat vreo metoda noua care inlocuieste hartia. Harita e rezultata din lemn care ajuta stratul de ozon, deci consumand hartie, poluam?!
Nu-i asa ca delierez?! -------------------- |
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Sep 19 2007, 09:10 PM
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specialist Group: Membri de onoare Posts: 3.446 Joined: 28-September 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 56.992 |
foarte usor m-as lipsi de taxe si impozite.
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"Furia Verde" - R5 TL (845cmc) WARNING: where we go there are no roads "Life is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump |
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Sep 19 2007, 10:00 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 2.254 Joined: 23-September 06 From: EU Member No.: 87.988 |
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Sep 19 2007, 10:06 PM
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pilot Group: Membri Posts: 398 Joined: 19-June 07 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 108.732 |
cred ca m-as putea lipsi de pepsi ( ~2 litrii pe zi ) -------------------- FORD MONDEO 2002 TDCI 2000cmc 96kw
Life is a temporar thing, don`t waste it! DRIVE SAFE!!! 1999-2006 =>19.269 DECESE cauzate de accidente rutiere. 47393 RANITI GRAV. Numaratoarea continua! |
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Sep 19 2007, 11:22 PM
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Blues fan Group: Membri Posts: 2.976 Joined: 9-March 06 From: Blues country Member No.: 70.361 |
Eu as vrea sa ma lipsesc de tigari, cafea, femei ( ale altora) (gluma!).
daca as fi mai putin serios m-as lipsi de romani si i-as inlocui cu austrieci, suedezi, norvegieni, etc. M-as lipsi de manelisti, vedete de muzica pop/disco cu fuste scurte. -------------------- ________________________________ Audi A3 Sportback 2.0 TFSI Prostia este infinit mai fascinanta decit inteligenta, inteligenta are limitele ei, prostia nu. Decat sa asculti blues la difuzoarele laptop-ului, mai bine dai manele la maxim. Esti mai castigat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJzH5vbL6s |
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Sep 20 2007, 08:44 AM
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Super Moderator Group: Moderator Posts: 8.261 Joined: 11-November 02 From: ORADEA Member No.: 7.754 |
Taxe, manelisti si prosti. Mi-a scapat ceva?
-------------------- OCTAVIA 1.8T 4X4 - Powered by Dimsport, Milotec, Forge, EBC and Ferodo Racing ! Detalii despre masina mea si Skoda in general pe FORUMUL SKODA-CLUB ! Uneori Dumnezeu ne taie craca de sub picioare ca sa ne aducem aminte ca putem zbura. "What makes you wise in life is not the success, it's when you go down and come back" |
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Sep 20 2007, 08:53 AM
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specialist Group: Membri de onoare Posts: 3.446 Joined: 28-September 05 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 56.992 |
da. de RABA si de fumigenele pe roti, de carutele de pe DN-uri.
-------------------- 2 * "Garsoniera" - HJ61 TD (4000cmc) si "Sugativa"- FJ62V (4000cmc) carburatie
"Furia Verde" - R5 TL (845cmc) WARNING: where we go there are no roads "Life is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get." - Forrest Gump |
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Sep 20 2007, 10:30 AM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 10.684 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Oradea (Bihor) Member No.: 23.122 |
Pai sa te lipsesti de de manelisti/gropi/taxe/trafic/etc... nu reprezinta nici un sacrificiu, se pierde ideea initiala.
Deci revenind la ideea "nebunului" as putea sa ma lipsesc de: - Mersul cu masina la servici, fac ~2-3 km pana la birou deci as putea sa vin pe jos, dar in timpul zilei mai trebuie sa ma deplasez in stanga si-n dreapta si as avea nevoie de o masina... ce-i drept nu as avea nevoie de una mare si puternica fiind arhisuficient ceva de genul unui matiz/aygo or any other crapy small car. Dar nu-mi vine sa dau bani pe o masina mica si lenta cand am deja una medie si destul de puternica. - As putea renunta la mancatul in oras (fast-food/ciorbe/etc) si sa-mi pun sandwishuri de acasa... Nu stiu daca as reduce poluarea dar as economisi niste bani. - As vrea sa pot renunta total la tigari... deja am renuntat "partial". - La bere nu am de gand sa renunt... nu mananc snacksuri/chipsuri/dulciuri, nu beau cola sau alte sucuri... nu am de gand sa traiesc 100 de ani.... vorba aia imi permit . -------------------- Mercedes C320 CDI 4-matic
Audi A3 Sportback 1.9 TDI "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." -Jeremy Clarkson |
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Sep 20 2007, 10:44 AM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 6.522 Joined: 12-May 04 From: Constanta Member No.: 25.186 |
Eu inca ma gandesc la ce as renunta! Daca aflu, va anunt!
Lista: 1. Tampitii care merg in afara orasului si pe ploaie in general fara faruri aprinse 2. Cei ce merg cu ceata aprinsa desi vezi la 10 masini departe cel putin 3. As vrea sa scap de cozile din oficiile administrative -------------------- |
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Sep 20 2007, 01:07 PM
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Subaru Anti-Hero Group: Moderator Posts: 5.323 Joined: 13-May 04 From: F 1 World Member No.: 25.368 |
V-ati departat de ideea initiala...Nu vad pe nimeni sa renunte la TV, mobil, PC, cuptor cu microunde, masina...
Ce sa mai...romanul s-a nascut un om caruia ii place comfortul -------------------- Schumi drive it like you stole it !
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Sep 20 2007, 02:40 PM
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membru vesel Group: Membri Posts: 1.829 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Iasi (Iasi) Member No.: 96.184 |
Eu am renuntat la TV de vreo 4-5 ani . Desi cand ajung acasa la parinti rup telecomanda intre posturile de la Discovery si sport (dar rar, cam la o luna, doua). La mobil as putea renunta, ca nu ma omor dupa el (nu-s in stare sa schimb mai mult de 10 cuvinte la telefon, prefer sa ies cu omul la suc/bere sa vorbesc daca e ceva de povestit).
N-as renunta la PC, ca mi-as pierde meseria ...si forumul -------------------- Hauris
Membru al grupului "Noua ne place avatarul lui Mariustom!" Pe de alta parte, sunt convins ca oamenii sunt mai dobitoci decat furnicile de cate ori sunt in trafic. Traficul e situatia in care oamenii sunt mai primitivi, previzibili si mai simpli decat oile sau albinele care au un creier cat o gamalie.D Si cu toate astea se considera niste toti niste soferi de geniu ... :D |
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Sep 20 2007, 03:16 PM
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Warp Member Group: Membri de onoare Posts: 4.752 Joined: 9-May 03 From: Bucuresti Member No.: 12.270 |
QUOTE(f1anatic) Nu vad pe nimeni sa renunte la TV, mobil, PC, cuptor cu microunde, masina...
doua saptamani pe an fac asta. e ca o gura de oxigen. dar apoi iti sar rudele/clientii/prietenii in cap ca nu mai stiu de tine, trebuie sa iti castigi existenta fapt ce implica pc, mobil, masina. suna idilic sa iti poti permite sa stai undeva la munte si sa iti faci o ferma ecologica, dar daca nu te oferi sa sponsorizezi proiectul asta, atunci lasa-ne sa continuam sa folosim lucrurile esentiale -------------------- |
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Sep 20 2007, 08:15 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 13.667 Joined: 30-June 04 From: Europa Member No.: 28.666 |
Eu as renunta fara probleme la 90% din canalele TV la care am acces. Si nu am acces la cele romanesti
As renunta fara probleme si la 80% dintre "accesoriile" telefonului mobil pe care nu le folosesc niciodata: agenda, calendar, jocuri, etc. Si la o buna parte din uindauz -------------------- Scuter 108cc... benzina, automat
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Sep 20 2007, 08:23 PM
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PGM-FI Group: Membri Posts: 2.877 Joined: 2-March 07 From: Bucuresti/Ploiesti (Prahova) Member No.: 100.675 |
QUOTE(James Kilowatt) As renunta fara probleme si la 80% dintre "accesoriile" telefonului mobil pe care nu le folosesc niciodata: agenda
stai cu hartiuta cu nrele de telfon in buzunar sau cum? -------------------- Honda Accord 2.0 MT Executive Arctic Blue Pearl
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Sep 20 2007, 09:20 PM
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specialist Group: Moderator Posts: 13.667 Joined: 30-June 04 From: Europa Member No.: 28.666 |
nu, aia face parte din cele 20% pe care le folosesc....
Prin "agenda" ma refeream la chestia aia in care iti scrii intalnirile, ora la care trebuie sa te speli pe dinti, ziua, data si anul urmatorului dus, etc. -------------------- Scuter 108cc... benzina, automat
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Sep 20 2007, 10:11 PM
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PGM-FI Group: Membri Posts: 2.877 Joined: 2-March 07 From: Bucuresti/Ploiesti (Prahova) Member No.: 100.675 |
ma gandeam io ca tre sa fie o greseala. Ala se mai numeste si organizer
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Sep 21 2007, 11:40 PM
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Blues fan Group: Membri Posts: 2.976 Joined: 9-March 06 From: Blues country Member No.: 70.361 |
As renunta la cei pe care nu-i pot alege: rude, sefi, etc.
-------------------- ________________________________ Audi A3 Sportback 2.0 TFSI Prostia este infinit mai fascinanta decit inteligenta, inteligenta are limitele ei, prostia nu. Decat sa asculti blues la difuzoarele laptop-ului, mai bine dai manele la maxim. Esti mai castigat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJzH5vbL6s |
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Sep 22 2007, 12:43 PM
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Lau Group: Membri Posts: 586 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Timisoara Member No.: 9.065 |
Eu in primul rand as renunta la tigani(nu-i suport), mancarurile din oras si pepsi(desi nu pot, parca sunt dependent de astea).
Daca fara PC as putea sa stau Nu as putea trai fara telefonul mobil, muzica si masini in general. Si bineinteles Nu as putea trai fara prieteni. Am uitat sa mentionez mai devreme |
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Sep 22 2007, 07:53 PM
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Blues fan Group: Membri Posts: 2.976 Joined: 9-March 06 From: Blues country Member No.: 70.361 |
QUOTE(Laurentiu_007) Eu in primul rand as renunta la tigani(nu-i suport)...
Fara nici o suparare dar cred ca ai o ideee preconceputa despre tigani si m-as mira sa nu iti stearga cineva de aici postul deoarece contine "ura de rasa". Discutia aici cred ca a cam deviat. Daca vrei sa discutam despore tigani si despre relel si bunele lor o putem face intr-un tiopic separat cu toate ca s-a mai discutat. Hai sa vedem ce putem face cu romanii si dupa aia sa ne uitam la ei. De ce romanii poarta aur pe ei ca si salbele tiganilor si asculta manele la maxim, scuipa, injur sau mai rau, etc? Probabil ii copiaza pe tiganii aceia pe care ii vezi tu si pe care probabil nu-i suporti. La fel de multi , poate si mai multi sunt romanii care se poarta asa. Nu are legatura cu rasa ci doar cu educatia. Probabil nu au avut sansa sa fie educati. Romanii culmea, ca au avut sansa sa fie educati dar degeaba. -------------------- ________________________________ Audi A3 Sportback 2.0 TFSI Prostia este infinit mai fascinanta decit inteligenta, inteligenta are limitele ei, prostia nu. Decat sa asculti blues la difuzoarele laptop-ului, mai bine dai manele la maxim. Esti mai castigat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJzH5vbL6s |
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