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post Dec 23 2005, 05:36 PM
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Atentzie insa ca trebuie sa stitzi multi parametri despre masina. Foarte important - si nu la indemina tuturor - sing: GEAR RATIOS. Eu le am din manualul tehnic. Singura diferentza intre acest software si realitatea...este ca masina mea poate trece de 141 mph. Nu cu mult, dar s-a raportat 153 mph conform GPS-ului. Insa...timpii de acceleratzie sint perfect adevaratzi.


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post Dec 23 2005, 06:53 PM
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Io ma bag. Hai sa alegem toti aceeasi masina, ca sa stim o socoteala... N-are rost sa comparam una de 120CP cu una de 300.


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post Dec 23 2005, 06:55 PM
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E mishto, doar ca cele mai noi mashini sint de prin 1992...


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post Dec 25 2005, 12:09 AM
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Paging Mr. Halba !

Hey Man ! Nu itzi cunosti specificatziile la dieselos-ul tau Audi A3 ? As fi interesat de o comparatzie...ca tot il lauzi. Trebuie raportul trepetelor de viteza, coef. aero, greutate, garda la sol, cauciucuri, turatzia cuplului maxim respectiv a puterii maxime, si cred ca restul te descurci.


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post Dec 25 2005, 12:21 PM
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Paging Mr. Halba !

Hey Man ! Nu itzi cunosti specificatziile la dieselos-ul tau Audi A3 ? As fi interesat de o comparatzie...ca tot il lauzi. Trebuie raportul trepetelor de viteza, coef. aero, greutate, garda la sol, cauciucuri, turatzia cuplului maxim respectiv a puterii maxime, si cred ca restul te descurci.


Ba da, acum am bagat datele dar calculatorul pare cam inexact... producatorul zice ca fac 0-100 km/h in 11.7 secunde iar calculatorul zice ca fac 0-60 in 14 secunde... in conditiile astea sfertul de mila in 20 de secunde nici nu mai conteaza... schimbarile zice el ca ar trebui sa le fac la 4600 din 1 si apoi intre 4000 si 4300....

Din pacate la opel nu am gasit suficiente date...


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post Dec 25 2005, 01:05 PM
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Mie imi da 8.5 pana la suta si cu accelerometru am scos 8.45.

Deci e pe acolo.


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post Dec 25 2005, 01:51 PM
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am corectat datele (pusesem inaltimea masinii extrem de mare... cred ca dintr-o eroare de conversie mm -> inci astfel incat a3-ul meu era de inaltimea unui autobuz londonez biggrin.gif)... acum dupa ce am corectat datele sunt:
0-60 - 10.7 secunde (acum e prea rapid biggrin.gif)
100 ft - 3.5 s
500 ft - 9.6 s
1/4 mila in 18 secunde
50-70 mile (80 - 112 km/h) = 7.7 s (la 75.4 mph = 120.64 kmh)


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post Dec 25 2005, 05:22 PM
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Eu nu am reusit sa gasesc gear ratios pt vectra.Dragos,tu unde le-ai gasit?


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post Dec 25 2005, 05:35 PM
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Si acum pt sharan:
0-60 mph = 12.6 (13.7 face conform producatorului pana la 100 km/h)
100 ft = 3.5 s
500 ft = 9.9 s
1/4 mile = 18.7 s


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post Dec 25 2005, 05:56 PM
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CRed ca introducetzi datele un pic gresit. Ai selectat spre exemplu cutie auto vs. manuala ? Si asa mai departe ?
Halbius Maximus...Sincer cred ca sint gereseli de "programare" la tine. La mine a fost complet corecta...in genul la

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Mie imi da 8.5 pana la suta si cu accelerometru am scos 8.45.

Deci e pe acolo.
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Vezi ca conteaza si modul cum o lansezi - de la ce turatzie pleci !


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post Dec 25 2005, 06:07 PM
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Conform software
0-60 mph (5.1-5.2) depinde la ce viteza lansez. Rezultate valide.
1/4 mile 13.6 sec (s-a obtzinut intre 13.3 si 13.7 in "real life" cu configuratzia mea).

Software are limitatzii dar este suficient de bun pentru scopurile noastre si sint convins ca poate face un clasament care va tzine macar 95% daca masinile ar fi testate in realitate.


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post Dec 25 2005, 06:49 PM
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Dupa cum am zis datele obtinute dupa corectarea primului "input" au fost veridice (cu diferente mici fata de producator) e normal ca 0-60 mph sa fie mai mic decat 0-100 mph... chiar daca la sharan spre exemplu timpul de 0-60 e suspect de bun in program timpul pt sfert de mila este identic cu cel de pe carfolio.com... oricum super programul... am vazut ca are si versiune noua (cu mai multe functii si mai multe masini... dar din pacate pe net e disponibil doar un demo cu vre-o 10 masini... )

am observat chestia cu launch rpm... la mine se pare ca cel mai bun mod de a lansa masina e de la 2400 rpm dump (am inteles eu bine sau asta se refera la faptul ca se ridica brusc piciorul de pe ambreaj... in opozitie cu slip in care se da drumul treptat ?)


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post Dec 25 2005, 09:09 PM
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Eu l-am lasat sa optimizeze el lansarea. Distributia de mase am pus-o la plesneala 60/40, iar greutatea masinii am ales-o cu 75kg mai mult decat cea din manual. (masa subsemnatului biggrin.gif)

Rezultate
100fts - 3.6s
0-60mph - 9.6s
0-100mph 26.2s
1/4 miles 17.1s
Top speed 123 mph (198km/h)

In carte
0-100km/h 9.0s
Top speed 195km/h

Eroarea de la demaraj vine cred de la curba de cuplu... din cate se pare, eu am o curba de cuplu aproape constanta intre 2400 si 4400 rpm, chestie pe care el subestimat-o, considerand-o liniar crescatoare.


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post Dec 26 2005, 12:34 AM
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fac apel la posesorii de dacii, TDI-uri de 90 cp si DTI-uri de 101, precum si la toate motoarele benzinare normal aspirate sub 100 cp sa-si posteze rezultatele obtinute ca mi-e rusine sa fiu in coada clasamentului biggrin.gif

1/4 mile:
f1anatic - subaru legacy - 13.6
DragosV - Astra 150 cp - nu stim exact cat ai scos pe sfertul de mila dar sigur esti pe locul 2
MR - Nubira - 17.1 s
Halba - A3 - 18 s
Halba - Sharan - 18.7


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post Dec 26 2005, 03:12 AM
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Aproape sigur eu sunt pe 2,inaintea lui DragosV dar nu am cum sa calculez exact pentru ca nu am aflat gear ratios pentru masina mea.


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post Dec 26 2005, 03:34 AM
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Imi da 15.7s la 143.5 km pe 400 de m.


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post Dec 26 2005, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(HalbaSus)
fac apel la posesorii de dacii, TDI-uri de 90 cp si DTI-uri de 101, precum si la toate motoarele benzinare normal aspirate sub 100 cp sa-si posteze rezultatele obtinute ca mi-e rusine sa fiu in coada clasamentului biggrin.gif

1/4 mile:
f1anatic - subaru legacy - 13.6
DragosV - Astra 150 cp - nu stim exact cat ai scos pe sfertul de mila dar sigur esti pe locul 2
MR - Nubira - 17.1 s
Halba - A3 - 18 s
Halba - Sharan - 18.7



Eeeuuuu..Eeuuuuu... smile.gif) Dar nu stiu gear ratios pentru Logan, am cautat tot netul dar nu am gasit nimic oficial. sad.gif Daca ma poti ajuta, te scap de rusine... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 26 2005, 10:46 AM
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In sfarsit am gasit si eu gear ratios.Imi da 15,3 pe 1/4 mile.Cu plecarea 2700 slip.Asa mi-a iesit cel mai bine.


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"final drive ratio" de unde o iau? Ca rapoartele cutiei le-am gasit pana la urma.

Am introdus o valoare la "final gear ratio" de 4.00, aleasa dupa ce am studiat alte masini, asta pana imi spune cineva cat e valoarea exacta. smile.gif

Rezultatul a fost: TIME=18.05 s.

1/4 mile : 17.6s @ 77.9 mph

Sper sa fi introdus bine datele, ca au fost destule transformari din si in sistemul metric.


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Uite, poti folosi asta pentru conversie.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/

Raportul final il poti calcula stiind viteza la o turatie data, oricum e mai precis decat sa-l ghicesti pur si simplu. Avan circumferinta pneului calculezi la respectiva viteza turatia rotii, apoi raportul total de demultiplicare impartin turatia motorului la turatia rotii si apoi raportul asta il imparti la raportul treptei de viteza si obtii raportul final. Probabil vei avea o eroare de cateva procente datorita erorii vitezometrului, insa cred ca e mai acceptabil decat o valoare aleasa la plesneala.


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