Indiana, plai cu cucuruz

Iata cum au votat romanii din Indiana care s-au prezentat la Consulatul onorific al Romaniei din Indianapolis, dupa cum am fost anuntati de unul din organizatori.

cum a votat lumea in tara stim cu totii... :scratch: noi ne-am facut datoria civica cum ne-am priceput mai bine.



Dragi compatrioti,

Asa cum am promis , iata rezultatele alegerilor de ieri la sectia de
votare din Indianapolis, IN.
Sper sa ne revedem peste doua saptamini cu ocazia turului 2 al
alegerilor prezidentiale.


Numarul total al alegatorilor prezenti la vot: 52
Total voturi valabil exprimate : 52
Voturi anulate : 0

Distributia voturilor a fost urmatoarea:

Camera Deputatilor:
UDMR 1
PSD+PUR 3
PNL-PD 42
PER 2
PNTCD 4

Senat:
UDMR 1
PSD+PUR 2
PNL-PD 45
PER 1
PNTCD 3

Presedinte:
Adrian Nastase 4
Traian Basescu 45
Gheorghe Ciuhandu 3

voturile acestea vor fi considerate pentru circumscriptia Bucuresti. majoritatea votantilor sunt doctoranzi sau studenti la Indiana University si Purdue University. Numarul romanilor din Indiana recent imigrati este de cel putin 200 de persoane, prezenta la vot a lasat insa de dorit, poate ca stiau ca voturile noastre nu conteaza pe langa cele 9-10 milioane exprimate in tara.

oricum apreciem eforturile ambasadei Romaniei la Washington care ne-a dat posibilitatea sa votam ( in mare majoritate) impotriva lor. totusi ceva lucruri s-au schimbat.

si iata si articolul dedicat evenimentului in cel mai mare cotidian din Indiana: Indianapolis Star:

http://www.indystar.com/articles/2/198357-7672-009.html

cred ca veti sesiza mai multe inexactitati, dar astia sunt ziaristii de pretutindeni, e clar ca cei de la IndyStar nu sunt specialisti in probleme est-europene

linkul nu prea merge, pun si articolul aici:

Romanians cast votes from Indy
Local business is certified as a polling place for the faraway election, thanks to its owner.

"It's an opportunity for all Romanians from abroad to cast their ballot," said Dorian Mihai, a political counselor. -- Kevin O'Neal / For The Star


By Kevin O'Neal
kevin.oneal@indystar.com
November 29, 2004


Sunday motorists on Binford Boulevard didn't know they were passing a polling place for the second-hottest election in Eastern Europe this month.

Not as disputed as the Ukrainian election, but just as closely contested, was Sunday's balloting for president and the Senate in Romania. It was the third free election in the former communist-controlled country, and the first in which Romanian citizens living abroad could vote.

That's why John D. Serban, a first-generation American of Romanian descent -- and the honorary consul to Romania from Indiana -- set up the polling place in the lobby of his Northeastside business.

"I wanted to do anything I could do to help," Serban said, noting that he has more relatives in Romania than in the United States and adopted a son from that country.

That polling place, at Concrete Surgeons, 5767 Park Plaza Court, resembled a paper ballot precinct in an Indiana election, except the ballots and registration forms were in Romanian.

"It's an opportunity for all Romanians from abroad to cast their ballot," said Dorian Mihai, a political counselor from the Romanian Embassy in Washington who was sent to Indianapolis to run the polling place.

Had Serban's office not been declared a polling place, voters would have faced a trip to consulates in Chicago or Detroit. Indianapolis attracted voters from Louisville and Lexington, Ky., Cincinnati and Lafayette.

One of those voters was Ioana Moldovan, of Bucharest, a graduate student at Indiana University who traveled from Bloomington to spend the few minutes it took for her to cast her ballot. "It's important to vote," she said after filling out her ballot.

Before voting, she had to present her Romanian passport; that passport then was stamped to show she had cast a ballot. The ballot went into a box to be counted when the poll closed at 9 p.m. Sunday, at which time the totals would be faxed to the embassy in Washington.

In all, 55 voters cast ballots in Indianapolis on Sunday, but local results were not available.

The process looked like a U.S. election, but the objectives differed. While Hoosiers vote for individual candidates in the General Assembly, for example, Romanians have a parliamentary system. They voted for political parties in their Senate election, with the winning party slates awarded Senate seats in proportion to the overall party vote.

Romania's prime minister is selected by the president from a list of candidates submitted by the parliament. The Senate is one of two bodies that make up the Romanian parliament; the other is the Chamber of Deputies.

Indianapolis turnout was light as the polls opened at 7 a.m. Sunday; about 30 people had voted by 2 p.m. local time, when polls in Romania closed.

Sunday night, according to The Associated Press, there was no clear winner between Adrian Nastase, current prime minister and candidate of the Social Democratic Party, and Traian Basescu, mayor of Bucharest and candidate of the Justice and Truth Alliance. That will force a runoff Dec. 12

The polls also showed no party won a majority in the parliamentary election that would enable it to form a government by itself.

The Romanian constitution lets citizens anywhere in the world vote in national elections.

"You have the human factor -- you want to keep in touch with what's going on back home," Mihai said. "And this is a good way to meet Romanians we didn't know."

Involvement by Romanians overseas could have been considered a threat in the communist era under former dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, but Romania has turned westward since Ceausescu was overthrown and killed in 1989. Romania has sent troops to support the U.S. effort in Iraq and wants to join the European Union.

"The Romanian people have always been very pro-American, more than anyone else in the area," Serban said.

Call Star reporter Kevin O'Neal at (317) 444-2760.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Eu sunt un pic nelamurit legat de alegerile astea de la noi si anume. Toti romanii din Diaspora cum se spune mai nou, au dreptul sa voteze. Teoretic vorbind, daca eu as fi in alta tara si nu se stie cand mai revin, totusi merg la vot la ambasada Romaniei din tara respectiva si votez pe cine ma taie capul - sa spunem un regim totalitarist - ca am toata familia stabilita cu mine si nu avem mari ganduri de reantoarcere. Asta fara sa am habar prea mare de ce se intampla in tara. Cum ar veni, noi cei de-aici depindem intr-o mica masura si de cei de-afara, care poate ca nu sunt interesati... sa zicem. Oricum, asta a fost un scenariu mai dubios pentru ca prin ce vad mai sus oamenii au votat foarte pertinent, zic eu. D-aia si spuneam ca e doar scenariu teoretic.

Plus ca exista un paradox : se stie ca in Banat si Transilvania la ora actuala nivelul de trai e mai ridicat decat in Moldova sau Oltenia. Totusi Cei din Moldova si Oltenia au votat pt continuitate (sa-i spunem abuziv "continuarea saraciei"), iar cei din Ardeal pt. schimbare. Ma rog, asa aratau statisticile la tv. Cam ciudat zic eu...

Ma rog, asta ar cam fi.

pai, nivelul de trai al romanilor de aici e f. probabil si mai bun decat media pe oricare regiune/judet din Ro...

multi oameni din zona au condus si 5-6 ore ca sa voteze: dupa cum se poate citi mai sus unii au venit de la cateva sute de km, din Cincinnati, Ohio si din Kentucky. eu cred ca asta e de apreciat, daca nu ar fi fost sectia de votare aici la 60 de km noi nu am fi condus 6-7 ore ca sa mergem in Chicago sa votam...

nimeni nu cred ca ar veni sa voteze aiurea. cine chiar nu a fost interesat de ce se intampla in tara nici nu a votat ( prezenta la vot a fost sub 25% comparativ cu numarul celor care frecventeaza biserica ortodoxa romana din Indianapolis, poate chiar mai putin de atata).

majoritatea probabil nu ne vom mai intoarce sa traim in tara, dar unii poate ar vrea sa se intoarca in tara si se gandesc la CE vor sa se intoarca.

in plus sunt poate peste 1 milion de romani care lucreaza peste granite, majoritea desigur in UE, si multi o fac sigur cu planul de a strange un ban si de a reveni in tara, si au tot interesul sa voteze. se pare ca in Italia multi au vrut sa voteze, dar nu au avut unde pt. ca organizarea acolo a fost f. proasta.

in fond toti suntem cetateni romani si trebuie sa avem aceleasi drepturi in relatie cu tara-mama, oriunde ne-am afla.

nu stiu cum e in tarile UE dar USA asigura dreptul la vot tuturor cetatenilor americani, oriunde s-ar afla, aprox. 2 mil. de americani votand prin posta din afara USA la recentele alegeri.