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Alex-F1
Ce stiti despre acea suflanta (aeroterma) alimentata la bricheta masinii si care baga aer cald instantaneu? Ma gandeam c-ar fi faina o chestie de aia, mai ales iarna, cand dimineata in masina am temperaturi negative, nu? Cu sistemul clasic de incalzire al masinii dureaza ceva pana se face cat de cat cald in cabina, dar cu chestia aia in 2-3 minute e cald deja, iar cand se ridica putin apa la motor, se poate opri aeroterma (sa nu mai consume din baterie) si se trece pe ventilatia normala a masinii! Voi ati auzit/vazut asa ceva? Io am vazut la sfarsitul iernii trecute (prea tarziu, iarna trecuse deja wallbash.gif) pe un site romanesc chestia asta, costa 1.100.000 lei + taxe postale si arata fain, neagra, din plastic, design misto, avea 2 trepte de viteza, dar acuma nu mai este.... :furios: Tare mi-as lua una si nu stiu de unde.... :scratchchin: ....n-am gasit nici in magazine, nici la talcioc.....ce mama draq? :evil: Daca aveti idei, dati cu ele, pliiiizzzzz.... :pray: ....ca vine canceruuuul si mi-e friiiiig dimineata in masinaaaa laugh.gif

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ALEX :wave:
Luka
In mod sigur astia de la Augsburg ar trebui sa-mi faca cinste ca prea le fac reclama smile.gif Deci, la magazinul Augsburg Militari am vazut asa ceva. Nu stiu cat costa pt ca nu m-a interesat foarte mult. Dar poti incerca.
sergiutruta
Am in fata catalogul de la Ausburg pe 1 Noiembrie - 30 Noiembrie.
Aeroterma 12 V - 73.36 RON...deci e pe la 700.000. Nici nu-i asa scumpa....daca intr-adevar baga aer cald rapid, ar merita. Da' nu stiu zau ce rezistenta poate avea de o incalzeste instant la 12 V si sa mai dea si caldura :angel:
Luati-va voi si spuneti-ne si noua daca merita blush.gif
Alex-F1
Uaaauuuu, 73.36 RON????? blink.gif I want it, I want it :shock: Da' io-s in Timisoara si aia-i la Bucuresti.... sad.gif Cum draq sa fac? :scratchchin: Are cumva si o poza in catalogul ala? De incercat io zic ca se poate incerca simplu: o iei in masina, o bagi la bricheta si ii dai drumul....daca baga cald cat de cat, atunci e bun! beer.gif Poate rezistenta aia nu se va incalzi chiar instant, dar in max. 1 min. ar trebui sa ajunga la temperatura ei maxima, iar caldura vine de la un ventilator aflat in spatele rezistentei si care sulfa aerul peste rezistenta incalzita, rezultand un aer cald....ca la un uscator de par, ce mai? :angel: Daca ar vrea/putea careva sa mearga la Ausburg, sa incerce chestia aia si sa-mi spuna si mie cum e.....mmmm, ar fi suuuper......dau o bere la butoi beer.gif ....si pe urma daca e ok, vad io cum fac sa o cumpar.....poate cu un telefon la ei....prin posta, ceva....sau poate gasesc pe cineva care mai merge prin Bucuresti si sa-l rog sa mi-o cumpere....we'll see arigato.gif Pana una-alta il rog pe cel care are drum pe la Ausburg sa se opreasca 5 minute pt. mine, sa intre sa vada care-i treaba cu scula aia (eventual s-o si incerce, daca nu cer prea mult) si pe urma sa-mi comunice si mie aici pe forum ce-a vazut! ...pliiiiiizzzzz :pray:

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ALEX
BandiT
si eu sunt interesat.
:wave: astept noi vesti. dau o bere beer.gif
Andrei Suzuki
Pt Alexandru:vezi ca e Augsburg si in Arad.E mai aproape...cre ca poti sa dai o fuga in week-end. Telefon:
+40 257 252 595

Fax:
+40 257 214 240

Mobil:
0740 305 130

E-mail:
GabiLuca@augsburg.ro

Sediu:
Str.N.Balcescu, nr.22


Pt SilverBandit:vezi ca e Augsburg si in Brasov.Poti sa dai o fuga acolo sa vezi ce si cum.Telefon:
+40 268 323 021

Fax:
+40 268 325 920

Mobil:
0740 305 171

E-mail:
vanzaribrasov@augsburg.ro

Sediu:
Calea Bucuresti, nr.102
CRG
Mey baietzi,

io nu stiu in ce masura nu afecteaza aeroterma asta motoru', da nu suna prea bine. in sensu' ca papa mult curent, deci motoru' e pus la munca mai multa, exact cand el este rece, adica frecare mai mare? ceva mai multa frecare sigur va fi, ca bateria n-are cum sa atenueze prea mult cererea de watzi..

poate ma prostesc, mai ales ca stiu ca si producatorii auto vind asa ceva ca si accesoriu la masinile lor, deci prea rau n-are cum sa fie.

voi ce ziceti?
Valentin50014
Nu are ce sa strice. Probabil ca va mentine motorul in sarcina partiala chiar la ralanti, ceea ce este de prefera, ducand la incalzirea mai rapida a lui.
Paote alternatorul ar avea ceva de suferit
Sunt curios cati watti consuma...
Alex-F1
Hmmm.....io nu cred ca e vreo problema....pai cand pornesti masina si aprinzi de exemplu doar farurile (fara alti consumatori) cum e? Farurile + stopurile au peste 110W, iar aeroterma aia nu cred ca are mai mult...sau tot pe-acolo....120-150....habar n-am si poate nici pe ea nu scrie nimic (de obicei nu scrie puterea pe chestiile astea chinezesti sau turcesti) si nici vanzatorii nu stiu! E ceva consum intr-adevar, dar nu e deloc exagerat....la o masina avem consumatori mult mai mari....ganditi-va ca de exemplu putem avea IN ACELASI TIMP urmatorii consumatori care "papa curent": faruri + pozitii (eventual faza lunga), ventilatia in cabina, dezaburirea lunetei, clima, muzica, stopuri frana, termocupla la motor etc ....pai astia impreuna....ioi, ioi....au watti multi, este?
Mersi Andrei de link-ul cu Aradul....chiar acum le voi da un call sa vad care-i treaba si pe urma mai vorbim! :wave:

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ALEX
sergiutruta
Vineri am eu un drum la Augsburg. O sa probez aeroterma si va spun dup'aia cum se comporta wink.gif
James Kilowatt
Pai la 120W ar hali aproape 10 amperi. Sunteti siguri ca tin sigurantele si firele la un curent de 10 amperi timp de cateva minute?! La Seat de exemplu firele de la bricheta sunt subtirele, si tinand o lada frigorifica care papa cam 3 amperi se incalzesc destul de sensibil....
CRG
pai aeroterma aia o sa manance de la 700 de wati in sus, in nici un caz 120.

pana la urma dilema tine de randamentul motorului (si cat la suta din asta se transforma in caldura ajunsa la picioarele noastre) si randamentul alternatorului (mai bine zis cat din energia preluata de la motor se transforma in curent electric).

sincer, tot nu m-as baga. uzura principala a motorului provine de la pornire (85%).

asa ca i-as usura cat pot viatza (eventual as porni aeroterma dupa vreun minut de la pornirea motorului)..
Alex-F1
Na, am sunat la Arad si n-au..... :furios: ....mi-a dat nr. din Bucuresti, dar tot ocupat suna....o sa mai incerc! Iuuuuuuiiiii, am gasit si io pe site-ul lor oferta aia pe luna noiembrie si am vazut aerotermaaaa :help: daaaa, cred ca e bunaaaa....iuhuuuu....esteeee....sarumana la Sergiu si Luka pt. informatii :notworthy: Astept Sergiu sa-mi scrii dupa ce o vezi si multumesc mult pt. promptitudine si amabilitate :wave:
Nu stiu inca cum vor tine firele de la bricheta, dar vom vedea....daca e nevoie tragem imediat altele mai groase, no problem :angel: ....nu ma intereseaza, io vreau caldurica repede in masinutza :rant:

ALEX
Alex-F1
Bingooooo.......am reusit sa vorbesc cu cei de la supermarketul Militari si am aflat ca are 150W - io ce va ziceam? wink.gif (deci nu "de la 700 de wati in sus" :harhar:), nu e mare (~ 20-25 cm in diametru), are o treapta de viteza, e draguta si...cam atat! Acuma ar fi interesant de aflat totusi cum incalzeste....de aceea, Sergiu, daca mergi vineri pe-acolo, poate reusesti macar s-o pornesti cumva si sa tii mana in fata ei sa vezi cat de cald e aerul suflat si apoi sa ne spui si noua daca merita sau nu! Astept impresiile tale.... :wave:

ALEX
Valentin50014
La 150 W e ok pt motor sialternator. Consulta manualul masinii sa vezi ce consum maxim poti avea la bricheta. Daca nu te incadrezi trage alte fire, cu siguranta
malin34426
Sunt curios chiar ce efecte are asupra aburirii si daca la -15 in masina
mai are vreun efect. cred ca mai rapide ar fi pernele electrice.
Alex-F1
S-ar putea ca pernele sa aiba un efect mai rapid, ele fiind chiar in contact cu corpul nostru, dar cred ca si de consumat consuma mai mult de 150W (pt. 2 buc. sa zicem)! - 15 grade nu prea cred c-o sa am io prin masina de multe ori (poate cand merg la munte).....sa zicem ca o medie ar fi in jur de -8 grade, iar aeroterma aia in 5 minute io zic ca totusi ar ridica temperatura aerului din cabina peste 0 grade, pe cand pernele ne incalzesc repede doar fundul si spatele, nu si aerul....iar daca avem si pasageri in spate, ei ce fac?....inghit in sec? biggrin.gif ....ar trebui atunci 4 perne ---> consum mult mai mare! Nici io nu ma astept sa faca minuni la 150W, dar cat de cat cred ca ar fi mai bine decat fara ea, caci in 5 minute la mine cel putin inca nu vine aer cald de la motor, deci fara aeroterma aia mi-ar trebui cam 15 minute pana cand temperatura in masina ar fi pozitiva!

Mai vorbim
ALEX
Florin50070
Ia bagati-va nasul si pe http://www.accesorii-auto.ro/ pagina electrice, diverse - Aeroterma costa doar 600.000 + taxe postale si cred ca e buna
Alex-F1
Da, pare ok si aia, arata fain, dar nu prea vad pe poza cat scrie puterea....nu prea se poate citi bine.... :evil: Vad ca scrie: "12 VOLT D.C. XXX WATT"! E 100 sau 160 sau cat? Voi cat vedeti? Daca e 100 e cam putin....in schimb 160 ar fi ok! Pai io cu taxe postale tot pe la 700 si ceva de mii ajung, pe cand cea de la Augsburg mi-o poate aduce o cunostinta care merge in Bucuresti saptamanal si trece chiar pe-acolo, deci nu mai platesc taxe postale! Mersi oricum de link...nici nu stiam site-ul asta!!!!!

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ALEX
sergiutruta
O sa probez aeroterma de la augsburg vineri si va spun arigato.gif biggrin.gif
Inca nu e chiar asa frig, mai puteti astepta 2 zile blush.gif
sergiutruta
Gata, am venit cu vesti.
Aeroterma de la Augsburg, 12 V, 150W. E micuta, nu are putere foarte mare. Se incalzeste repede, in 2-3 minute, si da aer cald, da' nu are putere. Deci poti cu ea sa-ti incalzesti mainile, dar in nici un caz nu poti incalzi masina. E un fel de feon de uscat parul. Desi am vazut d'alea care aveau putere mai mare decat aeroterma asta. Un - pentru ea: alimentatoru ala, sau cum ii zice, nu statea nici cum in priza de 12 V. Tot iesea afara.
Concluzia mea: nu merita 700.000. Daca era 100-200, atunci poate ca o cumparam. E micuta si slaba. Trebuie cautata alta solutie pentru caldura instant. Imi pare rau ca n-am vesti mai bune blush.gif
James Kilowatt
PAi are 150W.... cam cat 3 becuri de far pe faza scurta. Cam in cat timp s-ar incalzi masina de la 3 becuri de far?
Daca ar avea 1000W ca o aeroterma de camera ar papa de-a amperi ca ti-ar trebui niste cabluri groase cat degetul pentru a o alimenta.
Alex-F1
...... sad.gif hmmm.....intr-adevar nasoale vesti....pai oricum dac-ar avea 1000W, nu numai cabluri groase ar trebui, ci si baterie sau alternator pe masura blink.gif Oricum io ma bag la una, am gasit la o firma mai aproape de casa (Oradea - multumesc mult lui Florin pt. link :notworthy:), costa 605.000 ROL, are 160W, are si design mai rotunjit si nu ma costa nici taxele postale, ca mi-o aduce un sofer de la firma unde lucreaza sotia mea! Deja i-am dat banii la om, luni merge in Oradea, am vb si cu directorul de vanzari al magazinului si mi-o pus una deoparte la el in birou (ca cica se vand ca pita calda), asa ca pe marti sau miercuri ar trebui s-o am! beer.gif Ok, de acord ca nu are prea mare putere la 160W, dar io zic ca tot mai bine cu ea decat nimic....imposibil sa nu se simta cat de cat o crestere a temperaturii in cabina daca o las sa mearga 5 minute sau 10!!!!! Dupa ce-i fac proba intr-o dimineata cu temperatura aproape de 0 grade, va spun si voua cum e! :angel:

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ALEX
Alex-F1
QUOTE(MR28673)
PAi are 150W.... cam cat 3 becuri de far pe faza scurta. Cam in cat timp s-ar incalzi masina de la 3 becuri de far? laugh.gif laugh.gif


.... laugh.gif ....vezi ca tu incurci acuma sula cu prefectura biggrin.gif Ce-are aeroterma cu becurile? :scratchchin: Nu poti face asa o comparatie, deoarece la un bec energia electrica este transformata in lumina (cu disipare sau pierdere de caldura), iar la aeroterma energia electrica este transformata doar in energie termica (caldura), cu pierderi aproape nule! :bash: Got it? wink.gif

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ALEX
malin34426
Si eu banuiam ca e slaba dar, m-am abtinut. 150w este putin. Raman la perne electrice si probabil la pornire motor prin telecomanda , cu 5 minute inainte de a iesi din casa.
Gabriel.T.
http://www.comenzi.ro/product_info.php?pro...6bcade392651112

dar e tot mica 160W.
Alex-F1
....si de pret n-ai nimic de zis? blink.gif E aceeasi treaba, dar la pret dublu.... :bash: ....Stiu site-ul de cativa ani, dar chiar nu stiu de ce-i asa scumpa la ei? :scratchchin: Ei zic ca-i "mai ieftin ca-n magazine", dar cel putin produsul asta e DUBLU :wtf: Cine stie de unde o aduc....poate o fi nemteasca scula, desi ma indoiesc....in ziua de azi daca nu e China, e Turcia! bicycle.gif Vad ca aia de la Oradea e italiana.... biggrin.gif We'll see....

ALEX
James Kilowatt
QUOTE(Alexandru30535)
QUOTE(MR28673)
PAi are 150W.... cam cat 3 becuri de far pe faza scurta. Cam in cat timp s-ar incalzi masina de la 3 becuri de far? laugh.gif laugh.gif


.... laugh.gif ....vezi ca tu incurci acuma sula cu prefectura biggrin.gif Ce-are aeroterma cu becurile? :scratchchin: Nu poti face asa o comparatie, deoarece la un bec energia electrica este transformata in lumina (cu disipare sau pierdere de caldura), iar la aeroterma energia electrica este transformata doar in energie termica (caldura), cu pierderi aproape nule! :bash: Got it? wink.gif

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ALEX



Un bec cu incandescenta face cam 10% din putere lumina, sau chiar mai putin, si restul CALDURA. Randamente mai mari au becurile cu descarcare sau ledurile, asa ca nu am gresit prea tare in comparatia mea.
In plus, lumina care nu iese pe geam tot caldura ajunge.... Aparatele de incazit sunt singurele care au randament ce tinde spre 100% pentru ca orice forma de energie sfarseste in a ajunge CALDURA, pana si pierderile tot caldura ajung.... agitatie termica, haos, entropie, chestii din astea. Got it?
Diablo61581
Parca am auzit ca exista telecomande cu care pornesti motorul de la distanta... Nu ar fi o idee buna sa pornesti motorul direct din casa cu 10minute inainte sa te urci in masina?
Alex-F1
Gataaaaaa.....am aerotermaaaaaa!!!!!! beer.gif O folosesc deja de 3-4 zile si am revenit sa va zic si voua, asa cum am promis! Deci, asa cum ma asteptam, intr-adevar nu e puternica, dar tot baga ceva caldura pana se incalzeste motorul.....cabina masinii nu e mare, asa ca se simte prezenta ei, clar e mai bine decat fara ea.....afara au fost -5 grade, in masina -4....cam in 10 min. deja este caldut in masina, iar dupa inca 5 min. deja baga cald de la motor, asa ca aeroterma o opresc! Face ceva bazait, dar e decent, nu e deranjant....oricum muzica il acopera band.gif I-am gasit si un loc perfect, asa ca poa' sa vina iarnaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif

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ALEX
Alex-F1
QUOTE(Diablo61581)
Parca am auzit ca exista telecomande cu care pornesti motorul de la distanta... Nu ar fi o idee buna sa pornesti motorul direct din casa cu 10minute inainte sa te urci in masina?


.....ai tu curajul sa lasi in Romania masina noaptea in fata blocului scoasa din viteza????? blink.gif Io unu n-as avea!!! O sa zici ca mai e si frana de mana, dar totusi aia de motor e sfanta, este? :angel:

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ALEX
florin55503
si cu frana de mana pe frigul asta ce faci? iti ingheata si nu prea mai pleci mai laes daca e si zapada afara.
BandiT
pornirea motorului de la telecomanda cred ca implica si alarma montata pe masina...
eu m-am interesat ptr. cazul meu ( alarma k9 mundial) si ma costa in plus circa 6 milioane pornirea la telecomanda...
si este setata la 10 minute , adica daca in 10 minute de la pornirea prin telecomanda , nu bagi cheia in contact , atunci se opreste singura.
in tot acest timp , masina este incuiata si cu alarma activa...
daca aveam bani , asta era primul lucru care il faceam acum ptr. masinutza mea...
bafta
Alex-F1
Si cu frana de mana netrasa si nebagata in viteza n-as lasa-o peste noapte nici mort!!!! blink.gif La mine frana de mana e obisnuinta clara, cum opresc motorul, trag si frana de mana, chiar si iarna o folosesc zilnic, poate sa ninga, poate sa inghete, n-am avut niciodata vreo problema! :angel:

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ALEX
Shkoda
Am eu o aeroterma, luata din Augsburg, anul trecut.
Nu e mare lucru, insa daca vreti sa o folositi doar pt. a incalzi putin habitaclul pana se incalzeste motorul, ar fi bunicica. Eu am luat-o pt. ca pe vremea aceea aveam o dacie mai veche, care nu prea baga caldura.. si o foloseam tot timpul, pt. a incalzi in masina.. Si-a facut treaba cum trebuie, insa de 1 an sta prafuita intr-un colt al camerei..
Daca aveti nevoie vreunul din voi de asa ceva, dati-mi un PM.

Pretul e 50RON
Echo
Si eu asi vota pentru o pornire din telecomanda, intrucat si vara poate fi foarte utila pentru confort. In plus, mie unu nu-mi place sa-mi montez accesorii pe/sub/langa bord, de genul ventilatoare, aeroterme, detectori de radar, orice poate sa se miste/trepideze/scartaie. Solutia pentru frigul din masina, dimineata devreme: garaj+incalzire in scaune. Dati-mi voie sa band.gif pentru ca le am pe ambele arigato.gif
Diablo61581
[quote="Echo"]Si eu asi vota pentru o pornire din telecomanda, intrucat si vara poate fi foarte utila pentru confort./quote]

Pe langa ca e buna iarna, o pornesti si vara cand sunt 50 de grade in ea cu aerul conditionat pe rece si cand intrii in ea nu mai e caldura aia sufocabila si mirosul ala oribil de plastic incins

Ehhh.. pretentii ce vreti smile.gif

Chiar cam care ar fi preturile la aceste telecomenzi?
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