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_Constantin_
Lansez acest topic si sper ca moderatorii sa il accepte in speranta unor informatii referitoare la Focus. Orice lucru de bine sau de rau, mai ales despre varianta 1.6 benzina. Povesti auzite de la vecini, intampalri ale prietenilor, orice m-ar ajuta. Ar fi interesant, totodata sa vad daca mai exista mentalitatea: " Vii cu Fordu', pleci cu trenu'"? Chiar va rog sa raspundeti si sa va dati macar cu parerea. Multumesc.
Ovidiu108423
Am un prieten cu focus2, e drept cu 1.4 benzina...dar ceea ce m-a impresionat (negativ) nu are legatura cu motorul (la asta nu aveam pretentii...)

Masina are in jur de 30.000km, e folosita agale, ca si masina de familie...dar plasticele inauntru s-au degradat spectaculos. O
rama de plastic din jurul unui scaun s-a desprins spontan, geamurile scartie ingrozitor (ok, asta e de la praf..). Greierasi cat cuprinde. In gneral, interiorul pare ieftin si...labil.. blush.gif
Cornel001
Intai o intrebare : de ce vrei sa stii ?
HalbaSus
QUOTE
Greierasi cat cuprinde. In gneral, interiorul pare ieftin si...labil.. blush

Nu doar PARE... ESTE ieftin si... labil... Ingrozitor de ieftin as spunbe. In rest performantele dinamice sunt poate cele mai bune din clasa lui, ce-i drept in combinatie cu un motor de 1.6 nu stiu in ce masura pot fi exploatate.
ncristi
Unui prieten (focus 2 - 1.6 100 hp) nu-i mai intra in "marsharierre" (scuze daca nu am scris corect)...bine ii intra dar extrem de greu si cu o gramda de caraituri . Masina are vro 10k.

In rest Ok, suspensia buna, materiale ieftine la interior ca punct negativ si tot ca punct negativ -- reviziile astronomice ... ultima am inteles ca l-a costat vro 8 milioane (doar ulei si filtre) fara piese schimbate...oricum masina este in garantie...
Tarabostes
Un coleg tocmai si-a luat un Focus 1.6, la prima vedere, am fost impreuna intr-o deplasare de weekend sambata trecuta, masina arata bine, plasticele nu sunt mai proaste decat la Renault, Citroen, Opel sau Nissan, interior modern, destul de spatioasa, scaune confortabile. Tipul a condus pana acum un Clio Bicorp de 1.4 16V si zice, eu nu imi pot da seama, ca Focusul de 1.6 si 105 CP nu e la fel de sprinten ca 1.4 de 98 CP dar ca intradevar e ceva mai stabil. As zice ca diferenta e de la greutatea masinii si de la faptul ca e noua, facuse doar 1500 km si omul nu s-a obisnuit. Ar mai fi de spus ca nu are discuri pe spate si nu franeaza senzational.
Cristian57688
Ca minusuri zic:
- este prea joasa (eu am agatat scutul termic intr-o piatra)
- reviziile la dealer costa mult
- fluctueaza la relanti uneori (de obicei cand am AC pornit)
- consumul putin cam mare pentru un 1.6l (cam 11-12 in Bucuresti)
Ca plusuri:
- design-ul care nu il face sa para demodat nici la 9 ani de la aparitie
- tinuta de drum buna
- scaune confortabile
- spatiu multumitor pentru pasagerii din spate
- alternativa la VW sau OPEL ( o chestie personala)
_Constantin_
QUOTE(Cornel001)
Intai o intrebare : de ce vrei sa stii ?


Sfat de cumparare. Masina este undeva in germania si astept sa vad daca o recomand sau nu. Nu pentru mine, pt o ruda.
Cornel001
Cred ca cel mai potrivit loc sa intrebi ar fi pe forum club ford, sectiunea focus, de fapt deja e acolo ceva informatie. Ca si rezumat, e in general o masina destul de fiabila. asta nu garanteaza ca acel cineva nu poate nimeri un exemplar facut vineri 13.

Nu stiu daca e un FF1 sau FF2, insa despre al meu FF2 1.6 pot sa-ti spun urmatoarele: are doar aproape 16.000 km in aproape 1 an si 8 luni, singura problema serioasa de fiabilitate pana acum a fost un furtun de servodirectie fisurat si incepuse sa piarda lichid, s-a rezolvat pe garantie dupa ceva asteptat sa vina piesa :evil:
De asemenea as vrea un consum mai mic, chit ca imi cam place s-o calc. Altii insa spuneau ca scot consumuri si o idee mai mici.
In rest sunt destul de multumit de ea , uneori as vrea mai multa putere, da asta pt ca sunt eu mai disperat. tinuta de drum, condusul, sistemul audio in general placute. senzatie de masina solida. si chiar este , dupa niste evenimente ale mele si altora prin trafic.

A inceput sa scartaie usor ceva uneori pe la denivelari (nu se aude daca ai muzica), dar poate sa fie de la parbrizul fisurat/crapat + am cauciucurile cam umflate. Pe drum bun e impecabila.

"Unui prieten (focus 2 - 1.6 100 hp) nu-i mai intra in "marsharierre" (scuze daca nu am scris corect)...bine ii intra dar extrem de greu si cu o gramda de caraituri ."

Nu e singurul care se plange de asta. In manual scrie parca sa astepti 3 sec inainte sa bagi in marsarier, dupa ce ai oprit-o pe loc. sau da drumul la pedala si apasa pedala din nou si incearca din nou. sau dupa ce ai dus-o pana in fund da-i usor drumul si incearca din nou, dar usor, nu forta. Evident astea sunt sfaturi pt prietenul tau.

Mai stiu pe cineva care a luat un FF2 1.6 de 30.000 km la SH de la un dealer din ro, a facut deja mai multe mii de km (8-15 nu mai stiu)si din cate am inteles e in general multumit, doar problema cu marsarierul il mai deranjeaza.
Sonny
Asta este de rasul plansului, adica tragi aer in piept, numeri pana la 3 si apoi bagi in "Reverse" si toate astea in timp ce primesti claxoane din spate.
Watcher
QUOTE(Sonny)
Asta este de rasul plansului, adica tragi aer in piept, numeri pana la 3 si apoi bagi in "Reverse" si toate astea in timp ce primesti claxoane din spate.

Desi am inteles ce vrei sa zici si simpatizez cu punctul de vedere, nu ma pot abtine tongue.gif sa zic ca daca primesti claxoane din spate in general nu te indeamna sa bagi in marsarier tongue.gif:P
Cornel001
Daca inveti sa o simti putin, sa aplici ce-am mai scris, si nu esti repezit, nu e nevoie sa astepti 3 sec decat rar smile.gif si o sa plangi dar si razi mai putin.
Sonny
Ai sarit repede sa-mi dai peste nas... bicycle.gif In general cand vrei sa dai inapoi trebuie sa te lase cineva atunci cand esti pe o strada aglomerata (pentru o parcare laterala sau ca sa iesi dintr-o parcare). Te opresti, pui avariile, eventual te dai jos din masina si spui "NU DUREAZA DECAT 3 SECUNDE!" si apoi efectuezi manevra. biggrin.gif
Cornel001
smile.gif era vorba de 3 secunde dupa ce s-a oprit din mersul inainte daca nu ma insel smile.gif oricum ai dreptate faza e cam ciudata tinand cont ca cica la alte masini nu ar fi asa, dar si tu exagerezi smile.gif
drabisan
Costache, dar iti doresti Focus...(tre sa te astepti la multe misto-uri de la noi).
Poate il conving pe sefu' meu sa ti-l vinda pe al lui. Are vreo 10k, in ultimul an a facut exact 15 (cincisprezece) km! Si e doar perfecta.
Dar tre' sa te vad cu cenusa in cap, cu 2 lazi de bere rece (si Legionaru' e un suflet) si stam de vorba.

Dar Focus ma? LOL
_Constantin_
Nu e ma pentru mine. M-a rugat cineva sa ma interesez de el...
Ionut72466
Sincer, poate exagerez, dar nu pot intelege cum o masina la pretul asta da rateuri din astea la interior (de care voi spuneti), sau problemele de mai sus la motor pe la 15.000 km sau 30.000 km.
Asta ma intareste in convingerea ca in alegerea unei masini in primul rand, cel putin din punctul meu de vedere este fiabilitatea demonstrata in timp sau daca nu increderea in marca respectiva.
Si ca sa mai fac inca o paranteza "daca imi dati voie", in trecut ma orientam din punctul asta de vedere, spre doua marci vw cu "tdi" biggrin.gif si toyota. Dar am avut recent un caz in familie, un seat altea nou adus la comanda din spania, in jur de 22.000 de euro, cand s-a suit omu in masina, usa de la sofer era stramba, la peste 100 de km iti batea vantu in cap,.... si mi s-a dus si increderea in volkswagen.

...... Asa ca acum singura firma serioasa (mai acceptabila ca pret), in parerea mea ramane toyota.
_Constantin_
Ionut mai sunt si alte marci care fac masini rezistente inclusiv cele germane iar cel mai bun exemplu este VW cu seria Golf. In orice caza ma dezamageste ce aud de Focus ... nu ma asteptam
Cornel001
QUOTE(ncristi)
Masina are vro 10k.
reviziile astronomice ... ultima am inteles ca l-a costat vro 8 milioane (doar ulei si filtre) fara piese schimbate...oricum masina este in garantie...


Mi-a scapat asta. A luat teapa. pe mine m-a costat doar vreo 4, fara filtrul de polen... pe care l-am inlocuit 'singur' cu 75 ron cu totul cu unul activ.
ncristi
QUOTE
Mi-a scapat asta. A luat teapa. pe mine m-a costat doar vreo 4, fara filtrul de polen... pe care l-am inlocuit 'singur' cu 75 ron cu totul cu unul activ.


Romcar am impresia smile.gif

PS
Si eu imi inlocuiesc singur filtul de polen + filtru aer smile.gif... el n-a stiut saracu... masina noua etc

In alta ordine de idei (pt ca masina a cam fost desfintata) masina este una super OK...interiorul este peste cel al meganului (de exemplu) sau peste cel al corolei vechi (masina mai pretentioasa zice-se - chiar daca niciodata nu m-am omorat dupa ea ), sitemul de franare este OK, bine inchegata, suspensii mai bune nu ai de unde sa primesti la banii astia (poate doar de la golf)... masina imi pare OK pentru banii dati.

Acum daca ar fi sa enumar belele avute cu avensisul nostru repede s-ar trage concluzii pripite... :angel:
Focusul este o maina buna la banii dati...ca o concluzie personala.
_Daniel_
Contactul personal pe care l-am avut cu Focus a fost cu un Focus nou acum 4 luni , 2.0 l 136 cp ..cica ar avea 300 + nm ...
Masina a costat cam 18 000, scaune sport suspensii independente , daca nu ma insel ...

Nu am atins nimic in masina aia sa vad ce si cum ca nu m-a interesat insa interiorul mi se pare modern lucrat.. scaunele tari si comode la deplasari scurte dar cred ca te omoara la drum lung .. ce am fost impresionat cu adevarat a fost acceleratia unde pe 200 m in timp ce soferul se grabea sa prinda un semafor mi-a dat senzatia ca te-ar baga in scaun tot timpul in aceeasi treapta de viteza .. aveam 40 50 km /h asa ca aia 200 nu i-am facut chiar repede.
Mai mult el zice ca a urcat vidra cu treapta a 3 a ..

Draguta masina .. in curand am sa imi iau alta si Focus este un candidat puternic ..ce este pacat ca nu cunosti toate ofertele si reducerile de pret de pe net si poti rata anumiti deleri nestiind .. sau anumite modele..
Cornel001
ba din contra alea mai tari sunt mai bune pt drum lung... smile.gif
cine te pune sa iei ofertele doar dupa net ?
cody-man
Nu mai aruncati cu noroi in orice fara sa cunoasteti despre ce vorbiti!
Cum draq se face ca toate revistele de specialitate le vorbesc de bine (ff1 si ff2 ) iar la voi 'cahhhh - pute '
Nu zic ca la unele chestii nu mai poate fi lucrat un pic dar nici cum ziceti voi nu este .

@ drabisan : ziceai ceva de mistouri ; zi-mi si mie care e talcul ca nu m-am prins !
Cu marchearierul e destul de generala problema , nu doar la focus sau la ford se intimpla asta ; problema e ca pinioanele nu se invart cand bagi marcheariere si se mai nimeresc si dinte in dinte ( desi dintii la pinioanele astea sunt un pic ascutiti exact pt a preveni respectiva problema )
In momentul cand vad ca nu intra eu ma duc cu levierul in 3 dupa care revin si intra perfect (se misca un pic pinioanele in cutie )
Acelasi lucru se intampla si la matizul pe care l-am avut .
Kata
come on... nici la corolla nu intra mereu in marsarier din prima... e din seria "asa face toate", cum zice si cody-man.
nu vad de ce chestia asta i-ar deranja pe ceilalti din trafic atat de mult incat sa te claxoneze, really. merge careva cu spatele pe sosea? ca la manevre nu vad care-i problema daca mai incerci o data marsarierul...
nu e un motiv sa considerati ca focus-ul nu e fiabil, seriously now... seamana a "nod in papura"....
HalbaSus
Din ciclul "gagica mea e cea mai tare, masina mea e cea mai mare" in audi intra mereu in marsariere, defapt nu tin minte sa fi avut problema aceasta la vre-o masina... ah ba da.. la opel mai aveam problema asta uneori dar a aparut problema pe la vre-o 180-200 de mii de km si nu era doar cu marsarierul ci si cu alte viteze.
Kata
:notworthy:
nu-ti imagina ca face asa zilnic biggrin.gif da ce sa zic, "gagica" ta e clar mai sexy decat "nevasta" mea... de...
air_wolf
e mai misto sa ai PDNR21L biggrin.gif
Xalanx
La Audi e sincronizata si treapta de mers inapoi. La cele mai multe masini nu. Nici la Avensis nu vrea sa intre din prima cateodata. Mai calci odata ambreiajul si intra.
Cornel001
Hai mai Halba vrei sa stii si tu de ce ai platit banutii aia extra pt un audi (in afara de motiv: emblema) tongue.gif

PS eu am alta problema am venit de la drum lung ~800 km facut mai mult extraurban in diverse/variate conditii si acu cand ajung aproape de casa face figuri sa intre in a 3-a , am facut acelasi drum dus dar parca n-am avut probleme ajuns acolo. A, am uitat acolo nu era cocina de cucuresti... Oricum normal merg zilnic prin cocina da n-am avut probleme asa. O sa urmaresc.
Iulian HondaFan
buba la cutie cand nu intra "marche arriere" ( asa se scrie corect; e in franceza si inseamna simplu mers cu spatele; nu stiu de ce am preluat in romana expresia asta si nu zicem in romaneste) e intr-adevar daca exista sincro-mesh sau nu pentru toate vitezele. chestia este facuta si pentru a evita punerea din greseala in marche-arriere cand masina e in deplasare care ar distruge cutia.

o cutie de viteze manuala buna ( cu syncro-mesh) nu trebuie sa aiba problema asta. io am avut-o numa' la Accent... astea de la Honda sunt unt nu am avut absolut nici o problema la acest capitol si nu cred ca am pus vreodata mana pe vreun schimbator de viteza mai bun decat astea.

nu stiu cum e schimbatorul de viteze la Focusul european. asta american are un inel chiar sub maciulie care trebuie ridicat cu 2 degete pentru a baga in marche-arriere si merge fara probleme - am condus de cateva ori masina vara-mii - un Focus 1 2.0l 140CP 2003 si la capitolul dinamic si cutie masina este ireprosabila chiar down-right fun. are niste zdraganele dar nu se speriat si a avut probleme cu contactul ( se bloca si nu putea porni masina) dar l-a schimbat in garantie si s-a rezolvat. cutia la Focus1 este de provenienta Getrag ( firma de componente auto germana care are reputatie destul de buna) dar nu sunt sigur daca este aceeasi cutie si pe Focus2.

parerea mea despre Focus dpdv dinamic este excelenta... problemele sunt de fiabilitate. mie si interiorul la focus 1 mi s-a parut absolut rezonabil, oleaca sub Golf4 dar dpdv al feeling-ului la condus mult peste Golf4... Golf5 este intr-adevar alta mancare de peste. dar Focus1 ramane o masina de referinta pentru clasa compacta. dealtfel in 2001-2002 a reusit sa detroneze Corolla ca popularitate in lume, ceea ce spune multe - s-a vandut bine si in Europa si in America si chiar prin Asia. dincolo de reviewurile foarte bune si in presa britanica si in cea germana vanzarile anul asta ale Focus 2 in Europa pe ansamblu sunt excelente masina fiind pana in pezent pe locul 1 inaintea Astra si Golf. o masina proasta nu are cum avea asa succes intr-o piata extrem de competitiva cu masini una si una. ca unora le place mai mult Golf, Astra sau C4 e de inteles, dar Focus2 trebuie ca e o masina buna. poate nu asa de buna cum a fost Focus 1 printre suratele ei de clasa acum 4-5 ani dar orisidecat una dintre cele mai bune.
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