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mani91456
buna ziua..
Caut o masina intre 16000 si 18000 euro DDP...care sa aiba un pic din toate(dotari standard,putere, consum mic ,siguranta etc.)...dupa indelungi cautari pe site-uri m-am oprit la skoda fabia rs,care mi s-a parut a se incadra in cele scrise mai sus...pe de alta parte si ofertele de la VW GOLF ar trebui luate in considerare sau alte masini....poate ma sfatuiti in aceasta privinta.. multumesc si o zi buna....
DORU
Salut!

Desi poate la prima vedere voi parea subiectiv, incerc sa te conving de contrariul. Nu ai specificat un anume motor pt G5, asadar iti recomand din suflet Fabia RS, o masina mica dar cu motor f performant. Consumul la drum intins cu viteze croaziera de 130-140km/h nu va depasi 5-5,5 %. Echipeaz-o cu ESP, airbag-uri laterale si jante pe 16" si vei avea o mica bomba pe roti. Nu stiu in ce masura esti familiarizat cu resoftarea, insa in cazl Fabiei RS ajungi la 170CP si 400Nm si crede-ma, vei vedea multe masini f pretentioase cu soferi plangand in spatele micutei rachete.

Iti sugerez sa citesti drive-test-ul pe care l-am realizat cu acest model in aria Skoda, la "Impresii drive-test". Succes!

P.S. Avem pe cineva pe forum cu acest model, cauta la "Totul despre masina mea" si vei auzi pareri direct de la un posesor (e vorba de a3des) !
FiaGT
salut
si eu am cautat ca si tine o masina.......am ramas la golf V. dar am primit o sugestie, o masina sportiva, arata ff bine si se incadreaza in 16 mii. Ford Fiesta ST bafta in continuare.
DORU
Ford Fiesta ST este frumos personalizat, dar deja e batran. Performantele, asemenea. N-o spun eu, ci testul comparativ din AMS de acum cateva luni. arigato.gif
air_wolf
fabia rs e deja alta masina, nu se compara. merita, in loc de golf chel.
o3_cep
La Ibiza FR te-ai uitat? S-ar incadra in banii tai! E aceeasi motorizare ca pe Fabia RS, dar la design e peste fabia.
T u d o r
QUOTE(DORU)
Ford Fiesta ST este frumos personalizat, dar deja e batran. Performantele, asemenea. N-o spun eu, ci testul comparativ din AMS de acum cateva luni. arigato.gif


Doru, interesant argument in favoarea unei masini (Fabia) al carei urmas e deja anuntat pentru primavara anului viitor. biggrin.gif

Eu inclin spre Golf, e mai comod, mai mare si mai sigur. O fi Fabia o mica racheta (nu contest), dar performantele astea unde le folosesti? Si de cate ori? In rest te "bucuri" de rinchi miscati si zdranganeli pe frumoasele noastre drumuri. Si apoi, nici 105 cai de pe Golf nu sunt chiar anemici, iar cu resoftare te poti duce chiar la cei 130 ai Fabiei. smile.gif
Mihai 36955
Daca posesorul vrea masina sport, atunci nu-l vor deranja zdruncinaturile, care oricum nu sunt chiar asa rele cum se zice, iar FABIA/IBIZA cu 1.9 TDI 130CP/M6 cred ca nu se compara cu G5 1.9 105CP nici dupa resoftare, nu cred ca se compara nici cu 2.0 TDI, fiindca este mult mai usoara. M-am uitat la date si la IBIZA 1.9 TDI 130 CP zice cam asa
V. MAx 208, iar 0-100 9.3s, daca mai face si resoftare ........valeu :-)


Anyway BAFTA
DORU
QUOTE(> T u d o r <)
QUOTE(DORU)
Ford Fiesta ST este frumos personalizat, dar deja e batran. Performantele, asemenea. N-o spun eu, ci testul comparativ din AMS de acum cateva luni. arigato.gif


Doru, interesant argument in favoarea unei masini (Fabia) al carei urmas e deja anuntat pentru primavara anului viitor. biggrin.gif


Tudor, am mers cu o Fabia RS resoftata si cu una stock. Crede-ma, e o masina de fite de mare stil. Brutala. Daca nu vrei spatiu mare, vei fi invidiat la greu pe sosele. Senzatiile sunt super. Si o spun eu, care am o masina ce acc 0-100 in 7,2 sec precum o Octavia TFSI RS !
_Constantin_
DORU, sa ma scuzi dar eu te admir pe tine, care ai sacrificat probabil destule ca sa modifici masina aia in cel misto mod posibil. fabia RS si cu motor diesel mi-se pare o prostie inimaginabila. Te admira poate copii de liceu care inca nu au carnet, mi-se pare masina de pustani, sincer. Gandeste-te cat e cool e sa pornesti o octavia care arata oarecum normal si sa auzi un monstru sub capota... :smoke: SUPER COOL( la fel de cool cum l-ai avea pe Ozzie Osboune ca tata), si acum gandeste-te la o masina care respira numai sportivitate prin toate spoilerele si sa pornesti si SURPRIZA: tractoras... :puke:
DORU
OFFTOPIC:

Constantin, iti inteleg pct de vedere. arigato.gif Nici eu nu mi-as lua Fabia RS pt a fi singura masina in familie, dar pt o a 2-a, este o alternativa f buna. Am testat-o si am ramas impresionat.

E adevarat, am sacrificat destule sa-mi personalizez masina asa cum o stii in prezent din poze, dar nu pot sa spun ca Fabia RS, diesel cum aminteai si tu, nu e o optiune interesanta. Depinde ce-si doreste fiecare. Octavia RS TDI de ex este un dieselar greu ce nu se ridica la performantele Fabiei RS. Degeaba impui prin "caroserie" pe sosea daca vine un gandacel si te lasa cu ochii cascati. Strict dpdv al motorului am vb aici. In rest, ai portbagaj mic si iti vezi flash-uri de la multi necunoscatori. Dar consumul este extrem de competitiv pt masa masinii. Numai bine !
danmatyas
doru, unde sunt poze cu masina ta? am fost cu un golf 4 tdi de 150 cp.e brutal rau de tot.
T u d o r
Dorule, nu stiu ce sa zic... Nu ma refeream la calitatile de "bruta mica" ale Fabiei, ci doar la faptul ca Fabia se va innoi in primavara. Era o aluzie la argumentul tau cum ca Fiesta e invechita... biggrin.gif In rest, sigur, nu am condus o Fabia cu motorul ala, dar am mers cu una cu 1.4 mpi. Nu vreau sa fac comparatii idioate despre motorizari, e clar ca e altceva. Dar m-a hurducait masinuta aia de mi-a dislocat 3 rinichi... biggrin.gif Este extrem de seaca in amortizare, in rest iti da senzatia de indestructibil, ca orice masina de sorginte teutona. Sincer nu mi-a placut, eu pe vremea aia aveam o Solenza si-ti spun ca in urma testului nu m-a convins deloc.
Cum RS-ul ar trebui teoretic sa fie mai joasa cu cativa cm si mai dura in amortizare, rezulta o chestie care pe drumurile noastre va juca dintr-o groapa in alta si calitatile ei de racer nu prea vor putea fi puse in valoare decat pe autostrada sau pe cele cateva drumuri foarte bune. Sau poate la o liniuta la vreun semafor, dar cu conditia sa nu fie intersectie cu tramvai sau alte hopuri. biggrin.gif
Cum un astfel de comportament sportiv nu caracterizeaza decat, sa zicem, intre 10% si 25% din totalul timpului petrecut la volan, raman restul de procente in care te vei "bucura" de suspensia foarte rigida si de garda la sol de cart. Ca sa nu mai spun si ca, in comparatie cu Golful, e si mult mai mica, si mai lipsita de confort, si mai proasta calitativ.

Cu toate argumentele motorului brutal sau cum i-oti mai zice voi, eu din aceasta comparatie as alege Golf-ul fara sa clipesc.
bogdan84115
arunca un ochi si la grande punto 1.9 mjet 130 cp m....pe la 17.500 ddp il gasesti cu tot ce treb( clima , abs, ebd, esp , 6 airbag-uri, mp3 + comenzi pe volan+ subwoofer , jante de 17' etc etc)
ai 5* la euroncap , costuri de intretinere mult mai mici decat la pnb + distributie pe lant+ filtru de particule+ spatiu vizibil mai mare, etc etc
DORU
QUOTE(dan florin57283)
doru, unde sunt poze cu masina ta?


AICI: http://www.masini.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8673

TUDOR, f. obiectiv raspunsul tau. Insa eu in general aleg masina dupa motor si abia apoi dupa dotari. Acorda-mi deci circumstante atenuante biggrin.gif
De-asta merg pe Fabia RS in duelul cu G5 TDI presupun, in situatia de fata.
Vlad95335
salut ! ai luat o decizie deja in privinta masinii? eu am golf 4,sunt innebunit dupa golf, 5-ul mi se pare extrordinar..daca dak facem o comparatie intre o fabia rs si un golf5 la 17000, trebuie sa te gandesti pe ce pui mai mult pret.comfort,design [interior doar,fiindca la exterior parerea mea e k rs-ul bate golful] , sau pe placerea de a conduce? bicycle.gif . am avut timp de o saptamana un rs pe mana, si pot sa spun k e nemaipomenit. fuge k din pusca.. si m-a impresionat enorm cutia de viteze..! deci parerea mea este urmatoarea: ambele sunt masini bune, cu motoare fiabile. vrei putere,o masina sportiva,cu consum mic,si nu te deranjeaza faptul k peste cateva luni vei vedea modelul nou pe piata -> rs-ul. vrei comoditate,design mai atragator,un model nou care probabil k va mai ramane pe piata o perioada buna de timp.. iei golful. e in functie de ce nevoi ai tu. oricum ambele sunt 2 masini f reusite,si nimeni nu cred k poate sa contrazica asta,deci... sa o stapanesti sanatos pe oricare ai alege-o beer.gif
Vlad95335
salut ! ai luat o decizie deja in privinta masinii? eu am golf 4,sunt innebunit dupa golf, 5-ul mi se pare extrordinar..daca dak facem o comparatie intre o fabia rs si un golf5 la 17000, trebuie sa te gandesti pe ce pui mai mult pret.comfort,design [interior doar,fiindca la exterior parerea mea e k rs-ul bate golful] , sau pe placerea de a conduce? bicycle.gif . am avut timp de o saptamana un rs pe mana, si pot sa spun k e nemaipomenit. fuge k din pusca.. si m-a impresionat enorm cutia de viteze..! deci parerea mea este urmatoarea: ambele sunt masini bune, cu motoare fiabile. vrei putere,o masina sportiva,cu consum mic,si nu te deranjeaza faptul k peste cateva luni vei vedea modelul nou pe piata -> rs-ul. vrei comoditate,design mai atragator,un model nou care probabil k va mai ramane pe piata o perioada buna de timp.. iei golful. e in functie de ce nevoi ai tu. oricum ambele sunt 2 masini f reusite,si nimeni nu cred k poate sa contrazica asta,deci... sa o stapanesti sanatos pe oricare ai alege-o beer.gif
Vlad95335
salut ! ai luat o decizie deja in privinta masinii? eu am golf 4,sunt innebunit dupa golf, 5-ul mi se pare extrordinar..daca dak facem o comparatie intre o fabia rs si un golf5 la 17000, trebuie sa te gandesti pe ce pui mai mult pret.comfort,design [interior doar,fiindca la exterior parerea mea e k rs-ul bate golful] , sau pe placerea de a conduce? bicycle.gif . am avut timp de o saptamana un rs pe mana, si pot sa spun k e nemaipomenit. fuge k din pusca.. si m-a impresionat enorm cutia de viteze..! deci parerea mea este urmatoarea: ambele sunt masini bune, cu motoare fiabile. vrei putere,o masina sportiva,cu consum mic,si nu te deranjeaza faptul k peste cateva luni vei vedea modelul nou pe piata -> rs-ul. vrei comoditate,design mai atragator,un model nou care probabil k va mai ramane pe piata o perioada buna de timp.. iei golful. e in functie de ce nevoi ai tu. oricum ambele sunt 2 masini f reusite,si nimeni nu cred k poate sa contrazica asta,deci... sa o stapanesti sanatos pe oricare ai alege-o beer.gif
mani91456
salutare si craciun fericit....inclin spre un golf5 tdi 140 cp comfortline....ajunge pana la 20000 euro...
mani91456
buna seara..am inteles ca din vara se va lansa noul model de skoda fabia...credeti ca pretul la fabia rs va scadea?..
_Constantin_
Cu siguranta inainte de lansarea noului model vor fi reduceri substantiale la toate modelele fabia.
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