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Agapie79347
M-am hotarat sa-mi iau masina, am avans de 2200 euro si pot suporta o rata de 200 euro pe luna, am depus dosarul la leasing pentru o Skoda Fabia Charm 1,2 / 64 cp. La un pas de a da avansul mi-a aparul in cale Opel Astra Classic II. Skoda - ddp 11.198e, Astra- DDP- 11.080 aproxim aceleasi dotari.
VOI CE ATI ALEGE? :pray:
gratian75509
astra
Agapie79347
de ce Astra?
Damian53219
pt ca Fabia este ceva mai "sensibila" la gropile romanesti!!!

plus ca Opel.... va ramane Opel! :romania:
iulian-52
Sa vezi masini la ce pret vor intra in tara si in ce stare trehnica si nu numai.

Opel vectra b an 96 2500 e IMPECABILA

AUDI A 6 AN 1995 96 2000-3000 E FULL OPTION IMPECABIL

BMW SERIE 5 AN 1994 2000-3500 FULL OP I M P E C A B I L


DACA NU MA CREZI UITA-TE PE SITE URI GERMANE SI TE CONVINGI SINGUR
eddie
Aic se vorbeste de masini noi,nu de SH-uri.
iulian-52
PRIETENUL MEU ARE MECEDES C 200 COMPRESSOR LUAT DE NOU A DAT CC 45 000 E PE EL SI IN 2 ANI SI JUMATATE DACA VREA SA O VINDA ACUM NU MAI IA PE EA 14 000

UNDE E AFACEREA ,CA DACA STAM SA NE GINDIM BINE O ASA INVESTITIE E O ADEVARATA AFACERE ( PRIETENUL MEU ARE 3 FIRMA BUNICELE ,UNA DE COMERT ,UNA DE PRODUCTIE (FACE FURTUN DE IRIGAT) SI UNA DE COMERT ) CIND IA VENIT VALOAREA REZIDUALA DE PLATA ERA SA DEA FALIMENT

ASA CA LUATI-VA OAMENI BUNI NOI CA ASTEA SECOND HAND NU MERG CU ACCEASI VITEZA biggrin.gif
madalina
Iulian, discutia despre masina noua versus sh a avut loc in alte parti!

Nu mai scrie exclusiv cu majuscule, te rog!
Baby Blues
OPEL H
Mihai64798
Opel, in primul rand o sa observi diferentele cand o sa faci un drive-test.
florin55503
si eu zic tot opel. mai spatioasa si am incredere mai mare in motoarele pe benzina de la opel decat de la VAG (cu cateva exceptii) chiar si ecotec.

probabil te-ai gandit la benzina
Alex72215
opel astra...Nimic nu este mai bun...
nu trebuie decat sa te convingi, cate opeluri sunt pe strada.. iesi tu de coriozitate si numara... Nu fac referire la SH... durabilitatea se probeaza in timp si nu in vorbe...
daca ma intrebi pe mine sigur este OPEL... ca e Astra vectra zafira Vivaro corsa sau mai stiu eu ce alta combinatie toate sunt bune, am lucrat pe asa ceva si pana la urma mi-am cumparat si eu asa ceva biggrin.gif
Bafta si ne anunti si pe noi ce-ai facut!
Costin77425
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Opeluri sunt multe, dar Skoda a avut importuri mai mari asa cum arata rapoartele APIA in ultimii ani, doar Renault a avut un pic mai multe si dupa urmeaza VW. Deci ce scop a avut afirmatia asta ca sunt multe Opeluri? Skoda nu sunt multe, sau foarte multe?
Sunt de acord ca Astra e o masina foarte buna, dar nu fiti partinitori daca vreti sa ajutati omul.
Agapie, daca vrei sa ai o evaluare fair, pune aceeasi intrebare si in aria Skoda. In orice caz, trebuie sa te gandesti bine ce vrei tu de la masina pentru ca tu compari doua modele din clase diferite. Daca vrei mai mult spatiu interior, Astra are avantaj, daca vrei sa mergi mult prin oras, Fabia fiind mai micuta e mai potrivita.
Amandoua sunt masini fiabile, cred ca criteriile de alegere ar trebui sa se bazeze doar pe dimensiuni si pe design. Deci conteaza utilitatea si gustul in cazul de fata. Cred ca mai mult depinde de tine.
In orice caz, daca iti e greu sa faci alegerea, neaparat sa te duci la showroom sa te urci un pic in ele, eventual sa faci si un drive test, asta te ajuta enorm.

P.S. Acum vad ca ai postat si la Skoda whistling.gif
adi.mitrea
Pai sa vedem:

Fabia 1.2 htp 64 cai (cand pornesti aerul conditionat ti se vor parea prea putini cai)
Astra 1.4 twinport 90 de cai

Pneuri de 175 mm pe janta de 14 inch la Fabia
Pneuri de 195 mm pe janta de 15 inch la Astra (deci un plus de stabilitate si siguranta in rulare)

Service mai "amabil" la Opel decat la Skoda.
Decizia este a ta si numai a ta si iti recomand cu mare caldura un test drive!
Eu ca posesor de Astra de 11.080 euro ti-o recomand cu mare drag!
Succes si sa ne anunti si pe noi la ce te-ai decis!
Adrian
daco79828
Astra e fabricata in Polonia, Skoda in Cehia,Slovacia undeva pe acolo, deci mare diferenta la tara de productie nu e.Marea diferenta ar fi ca Skoda e sub concernul VW, ceea ce inseamna mare lucru.Foarte important si de unde iei masina -de la ce dealer-si cum te intelegi cu ei din prima, ca asa vei fi tratat si dupa-aia, inclusiv pe service.Parerea mea, o spun din experienta......
florin55503
varianta scurta in 5 usi e facuta in polonia. caravanul e inca facut in GERM. am intrebat la GTT
daco79828
Indiferent de cate usi are astra modelul vechi se fabica in polonia, in germania nici macar nu se mai fabrica nici nu se mai vand noi,doar second.Doar la astia mai amarati ca noi se mai aduc.
Mandula
Am avut aceeasi dilema acum un an. Si chiar daca Astra din discutie era atunci aproape 12.000 E ddp, am optat pentru ea, in principal pentrudiferenta de clasa, spatiu interior si mai ales portbagaj (atat cat are ea, 370 l), pentru diferenta de motor (sunt totusi 26 de CP !!), si asta nu pentru a face "liniute", ci pentru a conduce cu placere atat pe plan, cat si in panta, atat cand merg la drum intins relaxat, cat si in depasiri "in scurt".

Alte avantaje s-au evidentiat mai sus: fiabilitate probata, service ok (aici Skoda se zice ca sufera rau), costuri de intretinere reduse (piese, revizii), stabilitate superioara (jante de 15'' fata de 14'', pneuri de 1.95 fata de 1,75, conteaza mult pentru stabilitate si siguranta rularii).

As adauga o manevrabilitate deosebita, se misca extrem de usor in aglomeratia din Buc., directie excelenta, cutie buna, scurta, precisa, suspensii tari, tinuta de drum foarte buna asadar.

Minusuri: model mai vechi, 1998 (atentie, motorul e 2004, tehnologie twinport, consum redus, vezi pe forum), finisaje interioare decente pt. pretul ei, perioada mai mare de livrare (cel putin asa se aude), si probabil si altele mai marunte. Insa majoritatea minusurilor astora le are cam orice masina din segmentul asta de pret.

Drive test obligatoriu, si apoi, alegere in functie de propriile necesitati, stil de viata, gust, etc.

Succes !
Mandula
Am avut aceeasi dilema acum un an. Si chiar daca Astra din discutie era atunci aproape 12.000 E ddp, am optat pentru ea, in principal pentrudiferenta de clasa, spatiu interior si mai ales portbagaj (atat cat are ea, 370 l), pentru diferenta de motor (sunt totusi 26 de CP !!), si asta nu pentru a face "liniute", ci pentru a conduce cu placere atat pe plan, cat si in panta, atat cand merg la drum intins relaxat, cat si in depasiri "in scurt".

Alte avantaje s-au evidentiat mai sus: fiabilitate probata, service ok (aici Skoda se zice ca sufera rau), costuri de intretinere reduse (piese, revizii), stabilitate superioara (jante de 15'' fata de 14'', pneuri de 1.95 fata de 1,75, conteaza mult pentru stabilitate si siguranta rularii).

As adauga o manevrabilitate deosebita, se misca extrem de usor in aglomeratia din Buc., directie excelenta, cutie buna, scurta, precisa, suspensii tari, tinuta de drum foarte buna asadar.

Minusuri: model mai vechi, 1998 (atentie, motorul e 2004, tehnologie twinport, consum redus, vezi pe forum), finisaje interioare decente pt. pretul ei, perioada mai mare de livrare (cel putin asa se aude), si probabil si altele mai marunte. Insa majoritatea minusurilor astora le are cam orice masina din segmentul asta de pret.

Drive test obligatoriu, si apoi, alegere in functie de propriile necesitati, stil de viata, gust, etc.

Succes !
daniel76244
QUOTE(daco79828)
Indiferent de cate usi are astra modelul vechi se fabica in polonia, in germania nici macar nu se mai fabrica nici nu se mai vand noi,doar second.Doar la astia mai amarati ca noi se mai aduc.

DANIEL
nu stiu la ce model te referi, dar pot sa-ti confirm ca am un ASTRA 2.0 16v sin 2001 fabricat in Germania (chiar la Bochum)
adrian4u82
Astra Parerea mea!
alin81796
QUOTE(daco79828)
Astra e fabricata in Polonia, Skoda in Cehia,Slovacia undeva pe acolo, deci mare diferenta la tara de productie nu e.Marea diferenta ar fi ca Skoda e sub concernul VW, ceea ce inseamna mare lucru.Foarte important si de unde iei masina -de la ce dealer-si cum te intelegi cu ei din prima, ca asa vei fi tratat si dupa-aia, inclusiv pe service.Parerea mea, o spun din experienta......

hmm si dacia nu e sub concernul renault? in plus skoda abia a iesit pe piata (in variantele care pot fi conduse nu cazanele alea vechi) iar opel totusi are ceva ani de experienta chiar daca produce masini in polonia , sau oricare alta tara (nike in ce tara face haine? ,puma? adidas ?) se cauta mana de lucru ieftina si care sa produca mai multe perechi de tricouri de ex. pe zi decat un angajat din tatra de origine a firmei smile.gif
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