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victor71773
ce parere aveti de noul Infiniti G35?

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/Model...Description.htm
Otto73
Este o masina OK.
Nu am gasit nimic care sa nu-mi placa.
Victor54823
nu seamna cam mult cu un bmw??
Otto73
Cu "capodoperele" lui Bangle in nici un caz.
De ce toate masinile in viziunea unora seamana cu BMW ????????????
HalbaSus
are antena aia pt gps sau ce naiba e... de aia da impresia ca seamana cu un bmw.
Otto73
toate antenele de gps sunt aproape la fel
fiindca are 4 roti si volan nu da impresia ca seamana cu bmw ???
Impulse
Alura si curbura usii spate... de-aia seamana cu un BMW. Si binenteles binecunoscuta antena elaborata de BMW.
Otto73
daca poti sa-mi demonstrezi ca BMW a elaborat modelul acesta de antena te cred dar pana atunci sunt la polul opus.
f1anatic
Vazind zilnic primul model G35 nu pot sa imi dau seama de diferentza ? Poate stopurile pe spate sa fie imprumutate de la G35 coupe...dar in rest masina arat la fel. Din profil. Poate sa fie alte schimbari inauntru.

De fapt poza cred ca este generatzia 1 !
f1anatic
Am citit despre el in legatura furnizata. Mai spre coada...

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The 2007 Infiniti G35 is available in five models – G35, G35 Journey, G35x AWD, G35 Sport and G35 Sport 6MT. In addition to the long list of standard and available equipment on the G35, G35 Journey and G35x AWD models, the G Sport models add drilled aluminum pedals, magnesium paddle shifters (on AT model), sport seats and upgraded brakes, sport-tuned suspension and Viscous Limited Slip Differential.


What The Fac ? Viscous Limited Slip Differential ! Din pacate Valentin a luat o binemeritata vacantza de la topicul cu AWD...nici nu i-am urat drum bun si cale batuta - poate nu se mai intoarce. Dar cine ar fi crezut ca infinty - firma cu pretentzii nu inapoiatzi ca Subaru - oricit de copiatori de BMW ar fi...aleg sa aiba LSD viscos.

In rest mie si primul Infinity G35 - atit coupe cit si sdean - mi-a placut si sint convins ca si generatzia a 2-a o sa imi placa. Daca as vrea o masina cu motor atmospheric...asta ar fi alegerea. Motorul ala...este poate cel mai bun motor in 6 cilindri - ma rog daca esti fan BMW sau citesti anumite publicatzii...atunci sigur nu este.

oricum...va fi o masina reusita.
victor71773
QUOTE(f1anatic)
Vazind zilnic primul model G35 nu pot sa imi dau seama de diferentza ? Poate stopurile pe spate sa fie imprumutate de la G35 coupe...dar in rest masina arat la fel. Din profil. Poate sa fie alte schimbari inauntru.

De fapt poza cred ca este generatzia 1 !


Nu, uite mai jos alta poza din fata, se va vedea clar diferenta.

Victor
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Iulian HondaFan
check this out:

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/...81/pageNumber=1

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2007 Infiniti G35 sedan is a product of Nissan's Southern California workforce. In fact, it's the last Infiniti product to be executed in its entirety by those sun-loving surf bums, and it's a good one.


306CP dar torque mai mic decat motorul similar al Toyota-Lexus:

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Approximately 80 percent of the engine's parts are new, including the block, which has been made stronger. Nissan's white lab coats also added electromagnetic variable valve timing to the exhaust valves, a higher compression ratio and true dual exhaust. But the coolest new gizmo under the G's aluminum hood is the engine's symmetric twin ram air intake system, which uses two throttle bodies and routes the incoming air around rather than through or over the radiator. Nissan says the system helps reduce airflow resistance by 18 percent and increases horsepower by 3 at 60 mph.


BMW a trecut pe 335i pe injectie directa cu turbo, dar pretul cade obicei va fi in alta liga.

manevrabilitate:

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Nobody but BMW owners will complain about the G35's handling. Front-end grip borders on the remarkable, while body control and balance are superb. At the track it circled the skid pad with 0.85g of lateral acceleration and slipped through the slalom at 67.1 mph — both a cat's whisker under the performance of the BMW 330i.


tinand cont ca la 1-2000$ mai putin aceasta masina ofera un sprint mai rapid si interior comparabil este o alternativa de prim rang la 330i.

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Perhaps the new G's most meaningful improvement over its predecessor is its interior design, which has certainly taken several steps up in ergonomics, materials quality and ambience. Infiniti calls the décor "modern warmth." Real aluminum trim is not only standard, it has been textured to resemble a fine, handmade Japanese paper called Washi.


Directie pe toate cele 4 roti (o premiera in acest segment; iaca japonezii le-au luat-o inainte fritzilor tongue.gif):

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Infiniti says the four-wheel active steer (FWAS) system (which activates at 25 mph) improves the vehicle's handling by adjusting the toe of the rear suspension up to one degree based on steering input and vehicle speed. At the same time, a planetary gearset that's been added to the steering shaft varies the steering ratio between 12.0:1 and 18.5:1.


Concluzia Edmunds ( cel mai popular site auto din lume):

Turning up the heat on BMW
Impulse
Iulian HondaFan a scris:
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Directie pe toate cele 4 roti (o premiera in acest segment; iaca japonezii le-au luat-o inainte fritzilor


Iarasi vorbesti din brosurele ieftine si site-uri gen Tricicleta & Co..

Verifica putin sistemul AHK denumit Aktive Hinterachs-Kinematik pus pe E35 BMW 850CSi inca din 1992! Sa nu mai amintesc ca cel de pe BMW CSi 1992 este si acum mai performant decat cel de pe Infiniti-ul pe care il ridicati in slavi si va fi pe market in 2007!
la rahatul de Infinit 15 ani mai tarziu reuseste "improves the vehicle's handling by adjusting the toe of the rear suspension up to one degree based on steering input and vehicle speed" in timp ce la BMW 850CSi "The hydraulically-controlled AHK system activates at speeds above approximately 60 kph (37 mph) and can turn the rear wheels up to 2.5 degrees depending on the angle of the front wheels."

Dar hotii tot hoti. Lexus, Infinity the same s..t!
Poftim de mai citeste inainte sa ii lauzi pe "avansatii" ce au redescoperit roata germana ... blush.gif

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=11

Concluzia?
BMW nu este nici pe departe intimidat de copii infidele ce vor sa aspire la podiumul ce il detine cu suprematie.

Often imitated, never duplicated!

Si cat adevar contine acest slogan.
Iulian HondaFan
deci am avut dreptate: serie 3 nu avut vreodata asa ceva. biggrin.gif citeste bine domnu' avocat: "acest segment" -i.e. cel al serie 3. 850 este echivalentul in epoca al actualului serie7. tongue.gif
HalbaSus
850 nu are echivalent in epoca moderna... din pacate "balenele" cu 2 usi au murit sad.gif Probabil e irational sa faci o masina cat un vapor si sa-i pui doar 2 usi dar mie imi placeau smile.gif

4 wheel steering avea parca si Honda Prelude tot pe la inceputul anilor 90...
Iulian HondaFan
mai e Chevrolet Monte Carlo... biggrin.gif vai halba, Prelude nu e premium. blush.gif

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4 wheel steering

All four wheels turn at the same time when you steer. There are controls to switch off the rear steer and options to steer only the rear wheel independent of the front wheels. At slow speeds (e.g. parking) the rear wheels turn opposite of the front wheels, reducing the turning radius by up to twenty-five percent, while at higher speeds both front and rear wheels turn alike (electronically controlled), so that the vehicle may change position with less yaw, enhancing straight-line stability. The "Snaking effect" experienced during motorway drives while towing a caravan is thus largely nullified. Four-wheel steering found its most widespread use in monster trucks, where maneuverability in small arenas is critical, and it is also popular in large farm vehicles and trucks.

General Motors offers Delphi's Quadrasteer in their consumer Silverado/Sierra and Suburban/Yukon. However, only 16,500 vehicles have been sold with this system since its introduction in 2002 through 2004. Due to this low demand, GM will not offer the technology on the 2007 update to these vehicles.

Previously, Honda had four-wheel steering as an option in their 1988-1994 Prelude, and Mazda also offered four-wheel steering on the 626 and MX6 in 1988. Neither system was very popular, in that whatever improvement they brought to these already excellent-handling vehicles was offset by an unavoidable decrease in sensitivity caused by the increased weight and complexity.

Some vehicles now offer a form of "passive" four-wheel steering, where the bushings by which the rear suspension attaches to the automobile are designed to compress in a precise direction under the forces of steering, thus slightly altering the rear suspension geometry in such a manner as to enhance stability.
victor71773
QUOTE(impulse)
la rahatul de Infinit 15 ani mai tarziu reuseste..........
.... Dar hotii tot hoti. Lexus, Infinity the same s..t!


Ce pacat ca esti moderator! Cu un asemenea limbaj vei reusi probabil sa indepartezi multi dintre cititorii acestui forum...
BMW este o masina foarte buna - foate cea mai buna din foarte multe puncte de vedere - dar asta nu justifica in nici un fel superioritatea pe care o afisezi - nici macar daca tu insuti ai fi proiectat intreaga masina BMW de care esti atat de mandru...
Este off-topic - dar totusi nu m-am putut abtine - ar trebui ca macar moderatorii sa aiba cat de cat bun simt...

Victor
ozz86651
Domnule Impulse, toata admiratia mea pentru dedicatia cu care ati invatat cum se cheama toata sistemele de pe BMW! Si nu din reviste oarecare cu redactori "multilateral dezvoltati", ci chiar din materialele de specialitate si websiteurile oferite chiar de firma!
Faptul ca mi-ati atras atentia la cit seamana G35 cu un bmw e uimitor... o vad de atitia ani si niciodata nu m-am gindit sa fac aceasta asociere (perversa in capul meu, dar vai! cit am gresit).
f1anatic
Un alt surogat de all-wheel-steering este folosirea frinelor pe spate pentru a frina selectiv, in functie de pozitia volanului, una din rotile pe spate, creind un efect de pivotare al masinii in jurul rotzii pe spate interioare curbei. Interzis in Formula Unu incepind cu 1994.

O alta masina non-premium a fost Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR-4. oh noes...nu e premium.
http://www.modernracer.com/mitsubishi3000gtvr4.html
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/19874ws/index.html
Oh noes Honda Prelude nu e premium.

Oare cine o fi inventat apa calda ?
Iulian HondaFan
iata ca si C&D a testat G35 mk.2

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/1159...-6mt-sedan.html

spicuim:

1) G35 mk.1 primul sedan japonez care a batut un serie3 intr-un comparo C&D in 20 de ani!

2) testat fara 4 wheel steering G35 mk.2 este mai rapid ( 5.2 sec pana la 97km/h; Vmax 253km/h), mai silentios.

3) o platforma cu 40% mai rigida,

4) motorul de 3.5l are acum admisie dubla (similara celei folosita de Porsche si BMW care da un efect de cvasi turbo prin rezonanta) VVT dublu( admisie si evacuare fata de numai amisie in generatia precedenta), evacuare largita, raport de compresie putin marit, iar turatia maxima a ajuns la un Honda-esque 7600rpm ducand la cei 306CP anuntati la inceputul topicului. sweet! biggrin.gif din nefericire cel al rivalului Toyota il bate la cuplu care e mai mare si vine mai jos pe plaja de turatie. spulbera insa orice vine de la Mercedes si Audi ( BMW nu are nimic in cilindreea asta dar ne aducem aminte de cei 333CP ai I6-lui lor de 3.2l arigato.gif ).

5) obligatoriul diferential cu patinare limitata

6) o transmisie manuala in 6 trepte delicioasa ( ei zic mai buna decat cea a BMW tongue.gif)

7) comportamentul pe circuit citez "BMW-esque" si chiar daca baietii de la C&D inca ii dau lui 330 un mic avantaj diferenta este dupa ei "subtire ca o foaie de hartie"...

8) frane mai bune decat ale 330i dupa distanta de franare; arigato.gif

9) interior imbunatit, scaunele sub BMW insa blush.gif

10) pretul inca neclar, probabil va incepe la 32500$ ( 330i incepe la 36000$). daca Nissan il pozitioneaza corect o ideee sub BMW vanzarile vor fi pe masura... principalul lovit va fi insa noul Lexus IS (cel al carui vanzari s-au prabusit dupa lansarea primei generatii a lui G35).

exista si o voce disidenta pe placul BMW-istilor intre cei 3 redactori care isi exprima opinia personala.
ozz86651
Las ca apare stim noi cine care iti va spune ca asta e masina pentru sarantoci calici si orbi care nu-si permit citeva mii in plus pentru bmw.
Impulse
Ozz, mesajele tale nu reprezinta altceva decat flame-uri si glume ieftine foarte proaste care nu ajuta cu nimic acest forum ci doar il infunda cu balarii.
Iti repet inca o data ce ti-am mai spus cu o alta ocazie cand foloseai alta identitate: pentru mine nu mai existi! period.
ozz86651
Te previn ca sexul meu e masculin, si nu sint fosta cum pare sa crezi biggrin.gif.
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