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Oana
post Jan 21 2012, 09:07 PM
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am nevoie urgenta de o masina si pentru ca nu este momentul cel mai potrivit pentru una noua, ma orientez spre un SH. la momentul de fata am doua optiuni, insa nu este musai sa ma opresc la una din ele. precizez ca urasc ambele marci, dar va fi doar o solutie de compromis pentru maxim 2 ani.

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ambele au aprox. 150.000 km si cam acelasi pret...




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post Jan 21 2012, 09:23 PM
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Nu exista dpmdv decat un singur castigator: BMW...alta clasa de masina, indiferent de gusturile tale whistling.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:24 PM
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Daca te-ai orientat catre o masina asa veche de ce nu cauti o japoneza? Sunt mai fiabile in teorie (si conform diverselor studii de reliability si satisfactia clientului - chiar si in practica). Eu as cauta o Toyota din aceeasi perioada sau o Honda. Daca Olanda ar avea macar un delusor as recomanda de fapt Subaru.


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:35 PM
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are doar niste dune amarate de nisip smile.gif) recunosc ca Subaru este masina pe care mi-o doresc, insa nu cunosc niciun posesor de Subaru care vrea sa-si vanda masina... si parca nu m-as risca sa iau Subaru de la oricine.

@Doru, tu esti sau ti-a furat cineva parola?


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:46 PM
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De la BMW-ul ala din poza poti sa pastrezi jantele si restul sa il dai la fier vechi. Ca regula generala, nu lua BMW cu motor pe benzina de 4 cilindri ca nu merita.


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:48 PM
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Eu mi-as lua Opel Astra cu motor 1.8 benzina, cu gepeleu of course! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE ( T u d o r @ Jan 21 2012, 10:24 PM) *
Eu as cauta o Toyota din aceeasi perioada

doar Yaris sau Auris pot gasi la banii astia... si imi moare cainele de claustrofobie daca il bag in asa ceva laugh.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:58 PM
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Si ce? Crezi ca in seria 3 are loc sa joace ping-pong? biggrin.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 09:59 PM
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Adica de banii de un serie 3 nu gasesti altceva mai bun la Toyota decat Yaris? unsure.gif Ce se intampla in tara aia, s-a legalizat marijuana? rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:06 PM
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exact... la ambele intrebari smile.gif

mie sa-mi explicati (ca la blonde) de ce sa nu iau motor pe benzina cu 4 cilindri


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:09 PM
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Auris sau Astra, tot aia e la marime.
Insa eu as lua BMW-ul fara sa gandesc prea mult.


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (mike.omega @ Jan 21 2012, 10:58 PM) *
Si ce? Crezi ca in seria 3 are loc sa joace ping-pong? biggrin.gif


conform acestui site:
2000 BMW 316 - Passenger space: 4.830 litres
2003 Toyota Yaris - Passenger space: 3.860 litres

ping-pong nu joaca, dar un os tot roade smile.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:19 PM
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Nu poate fi decat dovada ca masinile japoneze isi pastreaza mai bine valoarea decat cele germane, cu atat mai mult premium.

Si o Honda Accord cat ar fi pe acolo?


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:28 PM
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Motoarele in 6 cilindri produc mai putine vibratii ce rezulta intr-un comportament mai rafinat al motorului si in general al masinii. Cu E46, modelul din poza, BMW au fost ultimii cu un motor de productie de 2L si 6 cilindri pe 320. La urmatorul din seria 3, E90 adica din 2005 incoace, cel mai mic motor de 6 cilindri este 2.5L. La capacitatea asta cilindrica mai gasesti la cativa producatori V6 (Ford au avut pana prin 2007 apoi au trecut la un 5-in-linie facut de Volvo). Dar deja iesim din targetul tau smile.gif Ideea e ca daca vrei sa te uiti la un BMW seria 3 E46, alea de la 320 in sus sunt mult mai interesante decat restul.

Vezi totusi ca 320 are doua motoare, unul de 2.0L si unul de 2.2L ca asa intelege BMW etichetarea modelelor.

Dezavantajul e dat de costurile de intretinere un pic mai mari (ca e nevoie de un pic mai mult ulei) insa desi are mai multe elemente in miscare, fiabilitatea e la fel de buna.

Cat despre spatiu, seria 3 vs Yaris e o comparatie de mere cu pere. Auris sau Corolla de pe vremea aia sunt comparabile cu Astra. BMW-ul nu stiu unde se incadreaza, am impresia ca triseaza prin unele locuri.

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post Jan 21 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE ( T u d o r @ Jan 21 2012, 11:19 PM) *
Si o Honda Accord cat ar fi pe acolo?

Honda Accord 1.8, 2003 - 6.950 euro

QUOTE (Diesel @ Jan 21 2012, 11:28 PM) *
Ideea e ca daca vrei sa te uiti la un BMW seria 3 E46, alea de la 320 in sus sunt mult mai interesante decat restul.

am inceput cu cele doua masini pentru ca le cunosc, asta fiind singurul lor avantaj. deci nu am sa ma uit la un alt BMW sau la un alt Opel. ori una din ele, ori o japoneza.

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post Jan 21 2012, 10:38 PM
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Ok. Dar alea doua din versus cat ar fi? Ca mi-e teama ca ne-a scapat informatia asta. smile.gif


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post Jan 21 2012, 10:43 PM
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Nu stiu ce vorbiti voi aici, dar Yarisul este gigantic la interior!!!
Chiar o mica duba cu banchetele rabatate biggrin.gif

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post Jan 21 2012, 10:50 PM
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@22nst eu nu am de gand sa merg cu banchetele rabatate smile.gif

QUOTE ( T u d o r @ Jan 21 2012, 11:38 PM) *
Ok. Dar alea doua din versus cat ar fi? Ca mi-e teama ca ne-a scapat informatia asta. smile.gif


aceleasi masini le gasesc aici cu 4.500 - 5.000 euro. eu le iau insa mult mai ieftin...

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@Diesel
Vezi cum manipulezi? Pai Daewoo a facut Epica de 2L in 6 cilindri pana foarte recent.
Iar BMW incep sa renunte la legendarul 6 in linie aspirat, si-au vandut sufletul downsize-ului si s-au pus pe facut 4 cilindri turbo, ca masina poporului...

@Oana
Ai vazut masinile? LA varsta asta conteaza tare mult cum arata si cum ti se par, dincolo de marca, specs si asa mai departe. Poti fi masini care sa isi faca inca treaba cu brio sau pot fi niste cazane, si e greu de spus pana nu le vezi si nu le testezi.
Nu stiu cat ai de gand sa dai pe ele, insa la urma urmei, cu bani putini poate prinzi un MB W124 de prin '94. Dupa parerea mea 12 sau 18 ani conteaza mai putin decat starea in care sunt. Iar in W124 in stare buna s-ar putea sa se dovedeasca a fi aur curat si s-ar putea sa te decizi sa nu mai renunti la el chiar si daca iti iei si o masina noua.

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post Jan 22 2012, 12:11 AM
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Mai e un aspect important. Unde stai si unde folosesti masina preponderent. Uneori un Yaris e mai potrivit ca un serie 3 daca te raportezi la un oras foarte aglomerat, cu parcari mici si putine.


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