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This topic is about Rodajul, the author, Edi45845, wrote about: Am si eu o intrebare:care etreaba cu rodajul.Eu nu il inteleg.De ce adica sa nu merg cu viteze mari si cu sarcina :minigun: .Cu ce difera motorul acum ... To read more just scroll down

 
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Edi45845
post Jun 17 2005, 12:44 AM
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Am si eu o intrebare:care etreaba cu rodajul.Eu nu il inteleg.De ce adica sa nu merg cu viteze mari si cu sarcina :minigun: .Cu ce difera motorul acum fata de cand nu e in rodaj?Eu zic ca traba asta e o gaselnita a fabricantilor de masini ca san u se strice imediat dupa ce le-ai cumparat sis a tina mai mult sa zici “uau ce buna e masina asta”.Binenteles ca e buna daca nu o folosesti!!!!Tata nu a respespectat niciodata rodajul la nici o masina sin u a avut probleme.Ce motoarele de pe masini nu-s motoare?Pompele de apa,utilajele,barcile nu au rodaj.Masinile de ce-ar avea?Ca sa poata da vina pe noi pt. orice defectiune,de aia!!!!!!!!! :argue:


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rodajul nu este pentru motor. motoarele sunt rodate pe banc. rodajul se face pentru restul partilor aflate in miscare .


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post Jun 17 2005, 07:47 AM
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Si alea adica de ce-ar avea nevoie de rodaj? blink.gif


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post Jun 17 2005, 08:41 AM
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pentru a mea (si cred ca se aplica tuturor motoarelor):

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?show...k%20in&st=0


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post Jun 17 2005, 09:24 AM
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Daca rodajul nu e pentru motor de ce se cere la masini noi sa nu depasesti o anumita viteza si o anumita turatie a motorului ?
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post Jun 17 2005, 09:46 AM
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Dupa cum a zis George pt restul componentelor... mai ales pt transmisie... la motoarele vechi rodajul era si pt motor...


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post Jun 17 2005, 12:25 PM
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cum sa nu fie si pentru motor? Mai ales pentru el, ca el e inima masinii. Rodajul la cald se face de proprietar, nu pe banc. Prima mie de km echivaleaza ca uzura (atentie la schimbul de ulei) cu 11,000 km de mers dupa iesirea din rodaj..se pare ca degeaba trimit linkuri...


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post Jun 18 2005, 07:13 AM
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Salut,
RODAJUL???
Foarte bun subiect. In primul rand rodajul se refera la masina in ansamblul ei. Toate partile componente au nevoie de asazisul rodaj. De fapt ce inseamna rodaj? Exploatarea masinii o perioada de timp fara a uza de posibilitatile ei tehnice la capacitate maxima. (Nu este o definitie din DEX)
Motorul in primul rand este adevarat ca se rodeaza in fabrica ,, la rece" Asta inseamna ca ruleaza ( este invartit de un motor electric) nu prin forta exploziei produse in cilindrii.
Toate piesele supuse frictiunii au nevoie sa se aseaze, sa-si formeze suprafetele de lucru. Acest lucru este valabil si la motor, si la cutia de viteze, la transmisie, la frane, chiar si la motoradul de incalzire sau cel de la stergatoarele de parebrise, absolut la toate componentele.Chiar nimeni nu a fost atentionat de mecanic dupa schimbarea placutelor sau a discurilor de frana ca dureaza o perioada pana ce acestea se ,,aseaza" nimeni nu a fost avertizat sa nu ,,forjeze" masina pana nu i se termina rodajul ?
Nu este o gaselnita a constructorilor! Este o problema verificata. Cineva spunea ca tatal sau nu a facut niciodata rodaj la masinile ce le-a avut. Bineinteles ca ele au rulat sa zicem fara probleme, dar studiati statisticile si testele facute si vedeti cati km au rulat masinile la care nu s-a facut nici un rodaj, observati ce piese au fost schimbate mai repede datorita uzurii, si de fapt si modul cum a functionat masina in general.
Chiar aici pe forum veti gasi intrebari de genul: de ce consuma ulei motorul desi are doar ...km, de ce se aud zgomote si batai in motor, de ce nu trage masina la fel ca la ...km. Poate una din cauzele problemelor ce apar prematur la masini este faptul ca nu s-a facut corect rodajul, sau mai mult nu s-a facut deloc!
Cine nu este convins de necesitatea rodajului poate sa incerce cu masina proprie ( de obicei se face cu cea de la firma ,,ca tot e in garantie" sau ,,plateste firma" sa ruleze de la inceput cu masina incarcata, motorului sa i i se dea ce merita, 4500-5000 ture, pornirile sa fie ca la carte cu urme puternice de cauciucuri pe asfalt, viraje in forta sa cante planetarele (daca are tractiune pe fata) si dupa 100.000 km faceti totalul ce piese si subansamble au fost shimbate inainte de vreme.
Nu uitati sa ne comunicati si noua rezultatul!
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in perioada de rodaj nu trebuie sa se exagereze asa laugh.gif

am rodat vreo 6 masini . toate sunt in stare excelenta de functionare si motorul trage la toate super bine .

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atentie , nu este recomandat mersul constant .

ps primele motoare de pe supernova erau rodate la cald smile.gif


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post Jun 18 2005, 10:55 AM
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Pai chiar am facut experimentul asta dupa cum am zis mai sus si masinile n-au avut nimic.Iar faza cu shimbatul pieselor la 100.000 e normala.Cat ai vrea sa te tina?Ideal este san u ajungi cu masina la km astia sis a o shimbi du un an,doi.Ca dupa asta incepi sa bagi bani in ea si nici nu mai iei mult pe.Asa ca banii pt. urmatoarea nasina o sa trebuiasca sa-i strangi de la 0.Ce inseamna piesele trebuie sa se aseze?Ca doar nu e casa.E facuta din metal.Ai auzit tu la alte utilaje de rodaj?Zi-mi si mie cum faci rodajul la un bulldozer(care in principiu e tot masina)?Te plimbi 1000 de km cu el la viteze mici si fara sa-l fortezi?Pai dai faliment tata.Crede-ma producatorii nu vor sa recunoasca ca masinile sunt de vina si dau vina pe utilizarea necorespunzatoare. :bash:
Si bineinteles ca masina nu merge tare in rodaj pt. ca nu-i dai in bot.Ia omoara tu o masina timp de-o ora.Scoate tot ce poti din ea.Sa vezi pe urma ce performante are la motor,cutie de vite,frana.Toate functioneaza mai bine cand sun fortate si incalzite la temperatura optima de functionare. blush.gif


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