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crysty_cyc
post Jun 7 2007, 07:27 PM
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Salut!
Am shi eu 2 intrebari, sau mai bine zis cer cateva pareri....
-Ce tip de ulei ar fi mai bun ptr Passat-ul meu din 2004 motor 1.9 TDI AVF, 505.01 sau 506.01?
-Castrol sau Mobil 1?
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post Jun 7 2007, 08:52 PM
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Salut,crysty_cyc

Citez de pe un forum dedicat auto VAG

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Concluzie:
Pentru uleiuri corespunzand normelor VW 505.00 sau VW 505.01 (PD) intervalele service recomendate de reprezentanta de 7500 Km sunt OK.
Pentru intervalele flexibile de service trebuie obligatoriu folosite uleiurile care respecta normele VW 506.00 respectiv 01 (PD).
Cine doreste sa foloseasca uleiurile VW 506.00 (01 - PD) pentru schimburi de ulei la intervalele de 7500 Km nu fac altceva decat sa "arunce banii pe fereastra" fara a aduce imbunatatiri in functionarea motoarelor sau prelungirea duratei de viata a acestuia.

Toate referirile la intervalele service din acest post sunt corespunzatoare numai motoarelor diesel fabricate dupa 2001


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Dealerii folosesc 5W-40 (VW 505.00/505.01) la recomandarea VWAG care conditioneaza mentinerea garantiei de reviziile facute la 7500 Km indiferent daca modelul este prevazut sau nu cu posibilitatea service-ului variabil long life.
Justificarea acestei decizii este legata de comportamentul uleiurilor care respecta normele VW 506.00/506.01 in prezenta compusilor sulfurosi din combustibilii de pe piata romaneasca si nu au legatura cu vascozitatea uleiurilor.
Normele VW se refera la proprietatile de lubrifiere a uleiului in conditiile formarii depozitelor de carbon si a temperaturilor mari (300 °C la nivelul pistonului) in conditii de exploatare indelungata. Suplimentar, in cazul PD-urilor, apar specificatii suplimentare datorate necesitatii de lubrifiere a suprafetelor de contact dintre cama si rola tachetului de comanda a pompei injector.

Pe de alta parte VW a "impus" specificatiile de "long life service" si din motive legate de marketing si de un cost scazut de intretinere.


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uleiul cu specificatie 506.01 este mai bun decat 505.01 din toate punctele de vedere (altfel nu l-ar fi inventat nemtii cool.gif ), atat ca viscozitate, ca aditivi - conservarea proprietatilor+protectie motor la temp. extreme, oil & fuel saver, full syntetic, etc. Banuiesc/sper ca nu este problema si vara cu el, in conditiile de clima+trafic din RO, vorbesc strict dpdv tehnic. Asta este problema care o ridici tu si mi se pare corecta!
Deci cred ca intrebarea ta ramane deschisa, se mai poate discuta. Cu toate ca inteleg ca-l folosesti deja de 50kkm, deci ai facut vreo 2 veri cu el, fara probleme.

D-lor admin, permiteti sa ma risc cu o concluzie:
Pentru motoarele incepind din 2000-2001 care au QG1 ! NU este nici o problema (de fapt este recomandat de vw) utilizarea uleiuri 506.00 sau 506.01, adica cu viscozitate 0w-30, inclusiv pe perioada torida de vara, in RO punct.

Si acum ne intoarcem la rentabilitate (vezi dl Andi TDI): deoarece reprezentantele VW efectueaza/recomanda schimburile la 7500-10000, in conditiile din .ro, mai este rentabila utilizarea acestor tipuri de uleiuri 506.xx vs. 505.xx?
Raspunsul meu (+ concluzie din post-ul lui ender): DA, daca diferenta de pret nu este semnificativa. Totul fiind in favoarea motorului!


Daca schimbi la 7.500-10.000 km poti opta pentru 505.01,daca faci schimbul la 30.000 km poti merge pe 506.01.In principiu stiu ca este recomandat sa mergi pe aceasi norma care a fost folosita initial.Referitor la marca(Castrol vs Mobil 1) alegerea iti apartine(poti alege tinand cont de cat de facila este procurarea uleiului si nu in ultimul rand de pret)

Numai bine!
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post Jun 8 2007, 11:54 AM
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Cateva completari: in RO nu este recomandat sa tii uleiul mai mult de 15k km. Asadar, chestia cu intervalul de service prelungit e cam poveste la noi. Cat despre tipul de ulei si indicativul acestuia, spune-mi cati km are masina ta? In principiu eu as opta pt Mobil 1 produs in SUA si comercializat la noi, dar despre xWyy nu ma pronunt decat dupa ce imi spui cati km are masina ta.


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post Jun 8 2007, 03:12 PM
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Mashina re 45.000 km biggrin.gif


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Mobil 1 5W40. arigato.gif (norma VAG 505.01)


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post Jun 8 2007, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(DORU)
Mobil 1 5W40. arigato.gif (norma VAG 505.01)


Mersi ptr raspunsuri.
Oricum am fost azi sa dau comanda de ulei shi filtre, shi io am vrut neaparat ulei cu norma 506.01, dar nu avea decat 0 W 30, Mobil !, shi l-am luat asa. Sper sa fie bun, adica sa n-am probleme.


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post Jun 8 2007, 08:36 PM
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VW Norm 503.00 and 506.00
Agip 7005 SAE 0W-30
Antar Innovia Premium SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: TotalFinaElf)*
Aral SuperTronic 2 SAE 0W-30
Avia Synth FE 30 SAE 0W-30
BP Visco 7000 FE SAE 0W-30
Castrol LongLife SAE 0W-30
Castrol SLX LongLife SAE 0W-30
Cepsa Star Top Synt SAE 0W-30
DEA Ultec Syn-T Marathon SAE 0W-30
DEA Viscobil I.Q. SAE 0W-30
Divinol Synthoilight SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Zeller + Gmelin)
Elf Evolution SAE 0W-30
Esso Ultron Long Drain SAE 0W-30
Fina First SAE 0W-30*
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL PCX SAE 0W-30
Galp Formula Ultra SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Petrogal)
Gamaparts Motoroil Longlife SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Bucher)
Gulf Formula XT SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: TotalFinaElf)*
Igol Process 503/506 SAE 0W-30
Labo Carat SAE 0W-30
Liqui Moly Synthoil Longlife Plus SAE 0W-30
Meguin Ultra Performance Long Distance SAE 0W-30
Mobil SHC Formula V SAE 0W-30
Motorex Concept V-XL SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Bucher)
Motul 8100 E-Tech SAE 0W-30
Neste City Pro W SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Fortun)
OMV full syn extra SAE 0W-30
Q8 Formula Excel ED SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Kuwait Petroleum)
Quaker State Synquest Longlife SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: O"l-Brack)
Repsol Elite Eco-XXI SAE 0W-30
Shell Helix Ultra-X SAE 0W-30
Statoil Lazer Way LL 503-506 SAE 0W-30
Sunoco Synturo Brilliant SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Sun Oil)
Texaco Havoline Synthetic SAE 0W-30
Total Activa 9000 SAE 0W-30*
Total Quartz 9000 SAE 0W-30
Valvoline SynPower XL SAE 0W-30
Vapsoil Syn Longlife 030 SAE 0W-30
Veedol Syntron LongLife SAE 0W-30
Wintershall Viva 1 SLV SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: SRS)
Yacco VX 2000 SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: TotalFinaElf)*

VW Norm 503.00, 506.00 and 506.01
(diese so genannten Kombiprodukte ersetzen die ausschlie?lich nach der Norm 506.
01 freigegebenen O"le)
Aral SuperTronic LongLife II SAE OW-30
BP Visco 7000 LongLife II SAE 0W-30
Castrol SLX LongLife II SAE 0W-30
Veedol Syntron LongLife II SAE 0W-30

VW Norm 503.01
Addinol Extra light MV 038 SAE 0W-30
Agip 7006 SAE 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic SAE 0W-40
Bot SLX/A SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Castrol)
Castrol Formula SLX SAE 0W-30
DEA Ultec Syn-T SAE 0W-30
Esso Ultron Fuel Economy SAE 0W-30
Fuchs Supersyn SL SAE 0W-30
Labo RC SAE 0W-30
Liqui Moly Synthoil Longtime SAE 0W-30
Megol Motoreno"l Super Leichtlauf Multisynth SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Meguin)
Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
Opaljet 32 S SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Unil Opal)
Panolin Racing Synth DC SAE 0W-30
Pentospeed 0W30VS SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Pentosin)
Q8 Formula Special SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Kuwait Petroleum)
Quaker State Synquest SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: O"l-Brack)
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30
Teboil Diamond Plus SAE 0W-30
Texaco Havoline Synthetic DS SAE 0W-30
Valvoline Synpower MXL SAE 0W-30
Vapsoil 50301 SAE 0W-30
Veedol Syntron SAE 0W-30
Vapsoil 50301 SAE 0W-30
York 748 SAE 0W-30 (Anbieter: Ginouves)

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AD Parts AD SDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Addinol Addinol Light MV 0546 PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Agip Agip 7004 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Aral Aral Tronic 431 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Avia Avia Turbo CFE PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Bucher AG Motorex Profile V-XL SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol GTD 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI synt SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Chevron Havoline 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Conqord ROLOIL 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Ultec Diesel SYN SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Viscobil ST SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Delek Israel Delkol IDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Denicol Motor Oils Denicol Pro Syn 4 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Esso Esso 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Eurolub (Hunold) Eurolub Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Pulsar Progress SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Selenia Performer SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Fuchs Motorenoel G052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Labo Syntha High Tech Synthese SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Motorenoel G 052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL-F SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ginouves York 742 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Hunold Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Igol Igol Process 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuttenkeuler Sorotec Pdi SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Motoroil 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Meguin megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf Technology SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Millers Oils Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil Syst S Special V SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil TD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Molyslide Molyslide Formula L2 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Motul Motul 6100 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Oest Mineralölwerk Oest Leichtlauföl 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
PAZ Champion Oil 50501 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Pentosin Pentosynth 5W-40 TS* SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Petrogal Galp Formula 505 Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Repsol Repsol Elite 505.01 TDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Rowe Rowe Synth PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Shell Shell 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Slovnaft Madit 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sonol Sonol Synt 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Statoil Statoil Superway SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sun Oil Sunoco Ultra semi synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Suomen Petrooli OY Teboil Diamond SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Tamoil Sint Future Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
TD Lubrifiants AVIA TDi 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Teboil Teboil Diamond Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Total Total Quartz 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Unil Opal Unil Opal Opaljet 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Diesel Turbo motot oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline High Performance Diesel motor oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline Diesel Turbo Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline High Performance Diesel Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Vaps Vapsoil PD 540 Spezial SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Veedol Veedol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Westfalen AG Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow PI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Würth Würth Triathlon Special PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco Spéciale SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco VX 505 Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Zeller+Gmelin Divinol Syntholight 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501

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Se poate obseva ca pentru 506.0x SAE este numai 0w30.


Am postat toata lista in speranta sa fie util pe viitor... :wave:
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post Jun 9 2007, 03:11 PM
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Mie pt 1.4TDI-ul meu mi-au dat de la Service-ul Porche uleiul Mobil 1 5W40. Am cumparat 1 litru pt a completa din cand in cand, dupa nevoi.


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