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Pronostic asupra castigatorului
Castigatorul la sectiunea masini va fi:
Mitsubishi [ 6 ] ** [54.55%]
Volkswagen [ 4 ] ** [36.36%]
BMW [ 1 ] ** [9.09%]
Altii [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Castigatorul la sectiunea motociclete va fi:
KTM [ 9 ] ** [81.82%]
Yamaha [ 1 ] ** [9.09%]
Altii [ 1 ] ** [9.09%]
Castigatorul la sectiunea camioane va fi:
Kamaz [ 7 ] ** [63.64%]
Man [ 4 ] ** [36.36%]
DAF [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Iveco [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
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adrian_flavius
post Jan 5 2009, 10:46 AM
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Daca mai sunt si altii pasionati de rally-raid, hai sa postam aici...dupa esecul de anul trecut, anul asta, fiind si editie aniversara, organizatorii s-au orientat spre America de Sud, in ideea ca pe acolo sunt mai putini "haiduci" si masinile pot merge in siguranta...

Din cate am vazut, primele doua etape au dat deja cateva surprize, in sensul ca Matsuoka de la Mitsu a iesit din carti, ca si unul din principalii candidati la titlul de la camioane...

Cea mai tare faza: anul asta a trecut si Mitsu pe diesel...hihihi...parca vad in vreo 2-3 ani si motociclete diesel...


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post Jan 5 2009, 10:52 AM
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Pai na, tocmai de-aia am votat ca la auto va castiga VW( dry.gif ), Mitsu nu are experienta cu motoarele diesel in raliuri. Din pacate nu am apucat sa vad primele etape. De azi sper sa am timp (si sa nu uit) sa vad tot raliul.
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post Jan 5 2009, 11:03 AM
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Se poate urmari unde si cand?


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post Jan 5 2009, 11:09 AM
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Pe Eurosport de la 20:00 parca


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post Jan 5 2009, 12:06 PM
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Eurosport are mai multe transmisii de la Dakar...cea mai importanta este cea cu rezumatul zilei, care se difuzeaza, in Romania, la ora 24:00, in fiecare seara... dar pe care il puteti urmari in reluare dimineata, parca de la 07:30 (nu sunt sigur...)...

Prima etapa a fost mai mult "de incalzire"...a doua a fost cea care a inceput sa dea masura adevarata a traseelor din America de Sud...mult praf, multe vaci, multe probe speciale in conditii de drum care vor solicita masinile la maxim...

Va fi foarte interesant de urmarit, in eventualitatea unei victorii VW, cum vor fi afectate vanzarile de Touareg "normal" dupa raliu...Mitsu a avut enorm de castigat de pe urma Dakar-ului, succesul de vanzari al lui Pajero aparand dupa seria mare de victorii din Dakar...


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post Jan 5 2009, 03:08 PM
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Harta Dakar 2009

Rezultatele etapei de ieri (doar primii 10):

Cars:

1 CARLOS SAINZ (ESP) 01:56:14
2 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL (FRA) 01:57:28 00:01:14.00
3 Giniel DE VILLIERS (RSA) 01:58:10 00:01:56.00
4 Joan (nani) ROMA (ESP) 01:59:02 00:02:48.00
5 LUC ALPHAND (FRA) 02:00:08 00:03:54.00
6 KRZYSZTOF HOLOWCZYC (POL) 02:02:00 00:05:46.00
7 MARK MILLER (USA) 02:02:30 00:06:16.00
8 ORLANDO TERRANOVA (ARG) 02:02:34 00:06:20.00
9 NASSER SALEH AL ATTIYAH (QAT) 02:02:46 00:06:32.00
10 ROBBY GORDON (USA) 02:05:38 00:09:24.00

Moto:

1 Frans VERHOEVEN (NED) 02:14:48
2 CYRIL DESPRES (FRA) 02:15:29 00:00:41.00
3 DAVID FRETIGNE (FRA) 02:15:52 00:01:04.00
4 JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) 02:16:21 00:01:33.00
5 JONAH STREET (USA) 02:16:39 00:01:51.00
6 Teus VISSER (NED) 02:18:35 00:03:47.00
7 OLIVIER PAIN (FRA) 02:19:50 00:05:02.00
8 Francisco LOPEZ (CHI) 02:20:53 00:06:05.00
9 MICHEL MARCHINI (FRA) 02:21:16 00:06:28.00
10 Einars VINTERS (LAT) 02:21:18 00:06:30.00

Nota bene: EMANUEL GYENES a abandonat si el...pacat...visul s-a terminat inainte de a incepe...mai ales ca Romeo Duicu si Marcel Butuza nu au mai luat startul dupa prima etapa, in care se clasasera pe locul 82 (Duicu), respectiv 186 (Buzura)...

Truck:

1 Gerard DE ROOY (NED) 02:21:42
2 FIRDAUS KABIROV (RUS) 02:23:42 00:02:00.00
3 Marcel VAN VLIET (NED) 02:30:20 00:08:38.00
4 VLADIMIR CHAGIN (RUS) 02:31:04 00:09:22.00
5 ILGIZAR MARDEEV (RUS) 02:41:28 00:19:46.00
6 Martin Macik (CZE) 02:50:00 00:28:18.00
7 Marek SPACIL (CZE) 02:50:54 00:29:12.00
8 Anne KIES (NED) 02:51:33 00:29:51.00
9 PEP VILA ROCA (ESP) 02:51:53 00:30:11.00
10 Hans STACEY (NED) 02:54:09 00:32:27.00

Harta etapei de ieri


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post Jan 5 2009, 03:22 PM
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Rezultatele intermediare ale etapei de astazi (dupa primul punct de control):

Cars:

1 C.SAINZ 04:34:46
2 G.DE VILLIERS 04:37:05 + 00:02:19.00
3 S.PETERHANSEL 04:38:37 + 00:03:51.00
4 N.AL ATTIYAH 04:39:01 + 00:04:15.00
5 J.ROMA 04:40:28 + 00:05:42.00
6 L.ALPHAND 04:41:07 + 00:06:21.00
7 M.MILLER 04:43:06 + 00:08:20.00
8 O.TERRANOVA 04:43:58 + 00:09:12.00
9 K.HOLOWCZYC 04:45:59 + 00:11:13.00
10 R.GORDON 04:56:18 + 00:21:32.00

Moto:

1 M.COMA 05:13:32
2 F.VERHOEVEN 05:27:19 + 00:13:47.00
3 D.FRETIGNE 05:30:23 + 00:16:51.00
4 J.CZACHOR 05:31:13 + 00:17:41.00
5 J.STREET 05:35:18 + 00:21:46.00
6 P.ULLEVALSETER 05:38:08 + 00:24:36.00
7 O.PAIN 05:38:46 + 00:25:14.00
8 H.KNUIMAN 05:39:28 + 00:25:56.00
9 M.MARCHINI 05:40:16 + 00:26:44.00
10 E.VINTERS 05:40:43 + 00:27:11.00

Truck:

1 G.DE ROOY 05:36:51
2 F.KABIROV 05:40:49 + 00:03:58.00
3 M.VAN VLIET 05:45:27 + 00:08:36.00
4 V.CHAGIN 05:49:43 + 00:12:52.00
5 I.MARDEEV 05:56:57 + 00:20:06.00
6 A.DE AZEVEDO 06:13:16 + 00:36:25.00
7 M.Macik 06:20:57 + 00:44:06.00
8 M.SPACIL 06:21:32 + 00:44:41.00
9 A.KIES 06:22:20 + 00:45:29.00
10 M.VAN DEN BRINK 06:28:16 + 00:51:25.00


Castigatorii Dakar-ului, de la inceput si pana astazi:

Cars:

2008
2007 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
2006 LUC ALPHAND
2005 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
2004 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
2003 HIROSHI MASUOKA
2002 HIROSHI MASUOKA
2001 JUTTA KLEINSCHMIDT
2000 JEAN-LOUIS SCHLESSER
1999 JEAN-LOUIS SCHLESSER
1998 Jean-Pierre Fontenay
1997 KENJIRO SHINOZUKA
1996 Pierre Lartigue
1995 Pierre Lartigue
1994 Pierre Lartigue
1993 BRUNO SABY
1992 HUBERT AURIOL
1991 Ari Vatanen
1990 Ari Vatanen
1989 Ari Vatanen
1988 Juha Kankkunen
1987 Ari Vatanen
1986 RENE METGE
1985 Patrick Zaniroli
1984 RENE METGE
1983 Jacky Ickx
1982 Claude Marreau
1981 RENE METGE
1980 Freddy Kottulinski
1979 François Genestier

Moto:

2008
2007 CYRIL DESPRES
2006 MARC COMA
2005 CYRIL DESPRES
2004 NANI (JOAN) ROMA
2003 Richard Sainct
2002 Fabrizio Meoni
2001 Fabrizio Meoni
2000 Richard Sainct
1999 Richard Sainct
1998 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1997 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1996 EDI ORIOLI
1995 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1994 EDI ORIOLI
1993 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1992 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1991 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL
1990 EDI ORIOLI
1989 Gilles Lalay
1988 EDI ORIOLI
1987 Cyril Neveu
1986 Cyril Neveu
1985 Gaston Rahier
1984 Gaston Rahier
1983 HUBERT AURIOL
1982 Cyril Neveu
1981 HUBERT AURIOL
1980 Cyril Neveu
1979 Cyril Neveu

Truck:

2008
2007 HANS STACEY
2006 VLADIMIR CHAGIN
2005 FIRDAUS KABIROV
2004 VLADIMIR CHAGIN
2003 VLADIMIR CHAGIN
2002 VLADIMIR CHAGIN
2001 KAREL LOPRAIS
2000 VLADIMIR CHAGIN
1999 KAREL LOPRAIS
1998 KAREL LOPRAIS
1997 PETER REIF
1996 Viktor Moskovskikh
1995 KAREL LOPRAIS
1994 KAREL LOPRAIS (CZE)
1993 Francesco Perlini (ITA)
1992 Francesco Perlini (ITA)
1991 Jacques Houssat (FRA)
1990 . Villa (ITA)
1988 KAREL LOPRAIS (CZE)
1987 Jan de Rooy (NED)
1986 GIACOMO VISMARA (ITA)
1985 Jost Capito (GER)
1984 Pierre Lalleu (FRA)
1983 Georges Groine (FRA)
1982 Georges Groine (FRA)
1981 Adrien Villette (FRA)
1980 . Ataouat (FRA)


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post Jan 5 2009, 04:08 PM
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Informatii suplimentare (mentionez ca sunt din presa autohtona, nu intotdeauna foarte "precisa" - conform Eurosport.com, nici Duicu nu a luat startul in dimineata asta...ne lamurim diseara/maine):

Pilotul Marcel Butuza si-a fracturat o coasta in urma unei cazaturi si a fost nevoit sa abandoneze la Raliul Dakar inca din a doua etapa.
In prima etapa din America de Sud a Dakar-ului, proba speciala s-a desfasurat intr-o zona cu foarte mult praf, iar intr-un viraj foarte strans fara vizibilitate din cauza prafului ridicat de ceilalti concurenti, Marcel Butuza a cazut. In urma acestui incident, Butuza s-a ales cu o coasta rupta si desi a suportat durerea in prima parte a zilei a doua, nu a putut ajunge mai departe de punctul de control orar nr. 2.
Aceasta este a doua participare a lui Marcel Butuza la Dakar dupa editia 2007, incheiata cu un abandon tehnic.
Un alt pilot de la Vectra Racing Team, Emanuel Gyenes a cazut intr-o groapa nesemnalizata pe road book si are probleme destul de grave cu bratul stang (inca se asteapta rezultatul investigatiilor medicale). Participarea lui Gyenes in continuare la Dakar este pusa sub semnul intrebarii.

Romeo Duicu a ramas in schimb la Dakar 2009. Romeo Duicu l-a inlocuit pe Alex Garbacea in echipa si a devenit tata pentru prima oara cu doar cateva zile inainte de inceperea raliului.

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post Jan 6 2009, 12:07 AM
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informatii f precise se pot obtine de aici:

http://www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/LIVE/us/300/index.html


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post Jan 6 2009, 10:06 AM
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Azazel, mersic...asa este, au informatii mai fresh ca Eurosport...

Rezultatele etapei de ieri:

Car:

1 NASSER SALEH AL ATTIYAH (QAT) 04:29:27
2 CARLOS SAINZ (ESP) 04:30:02 00:00:35.00
3 Dieter DEPPING (GER) 04:31:07 00:01:40.00
4 Giniel DE VILLIERS (RSA) 04:33:28 00:04:01.00
5 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL (FRA) 04:34:58 00:05:31.00
6 MARK MILLER (USA) 04:37:27 00:08:00.00
7 ORLANDO TERRANOVA (ARG) 04:38:31 00:09:04.00
8 Joan (nani) ROMA (ESP) 04:38:42 00:09:15.00
9 GUERLAIN CHICHERIT (FRA) 04:41:15 00:11:48.00
10 ROBBY GORDON (USA) 04:43:02 00:13:35.00

Moto:

1 MARC COMA (ESP) 05:18:17
2 PAL ANDERS ULLEVALSETER (NOR) 05:36:06 00:17:49.00
3 JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) 05:36:06 00:17:49.00
4 DAVID CASTEU (FRA) 05:36:33 00:18:16.00
5 GERARD FARRES GUELL (ESP) 05:36:59 00:18:42.00
6 MICHEL MARCHINI (FRA) 05:39:55 00:21:38.00
7 DAVID FRETIGNE (FRA) 05:40:37 00:22:20.00
8 JONAH STREET (USA) 05:41:07 00:22:50.00
9 Henk KNUIMAN (NED) 05:41:14 00:22:57.00
10 Helder RODRIGUES (POR) 05:42:51 00:24:34.00

Truck:

1 VLADIMIR CHAGIN (RUS) 05:15:59
2 Gerard DE ROOY (NED) 05:19:23 00:03:24.00
3 FIRDAUS KABIROV (RUS) 05:23:11 00:07:12.00
4 Wulfert VAN GINKEL (NED) 05:32:00 00:16:01.00
5 Hans STACEY (NED) 05:34:04 00:18:05.00
6 Martin VAN DEN BRINK (NED) 05:36:53 00:20:54.00
7 ILGIZAR MARDEEV (RUS) 05:37:23 00:21:24.00
8 Franz ECHTER (GER) 05:38:09 00:22:10.00
9 ANDRE DE AZEVEDO (BRA) 05:38:30 00:22:31.00
10 HUGO DUISTERS (BEL) 05:40:56 00:24:57.00


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post Jan 6 2009, 10:51 AM
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Doar Butuza si Geynes apar pe lista de abandonuri, nu si Duicu...poate-poate asa este, si inca mai avem un roman in caravana...

In alta ordine de idei, dupa etapa de ieri, clasamentul se prezinta astfel:

Car:

1 CARLOS SAINZ 09:04:48
2 NASSER SALEH AL ATTIYAH 09:08:28 + 00:03:40.00
3 Giniel DE VILLIERS 09:10:33 + 00:05:45.00
4 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL 09:13:35 + 00:08:47.00
5 Joan (nani) ROMA 09:19:10 + 00:14:22.00
6 MARK MILLER 09:20:33 + 00:15:45.00
7 ORLANDO TERRANOVA 09:22:29 + 00:17:41.00
8 KRZYSZTOF HOLOWCZYC 09:39:13 + 00:34:25.00
9 ROBBY GORDON 09:39:20 + 00:34:32.00
10 LUC ALPHAND 09:43:35 + 00:38:47.00

Moto:
1 002 COMA (ESP) KTM 10:31:49 00:00:00
2 012 FRETIGNE (FRA) YAMAHA 11:11:00 00:39:11
3 004 ULLEVALSETER (NOR) KTM 11:14:14 00:42:25
4 010 CZACHOR (POL) KTM 11:15:10 00:43:21
5 026 STREET (USA) KTM 11:16:25 00:44:36 06:00
6 009 VILADOMS (ESP) KTM 11:19:06 00:47:17
7 007 MARCHINI (FRA) YAMAHA 11:20:11 00:48:22
8 011 KNUIMAN (NLD) KTM 11:26:42 00:54:53 06:00
9 016 PAIN (FRA) YAMAHA 11:27:05 00:55:16
10 018 VINTERS (LVA) KTM 11:28:34 00:56:45

Truck:

1 505 DE ROOY (NLD)
DOLSOUL (BEL)
VAN MELIS (NLD) GINAF 10:56:14 00:00:00
2 506 KABIROV (RUS)
BELYAEV (RUS)
MOKEEV (RUS) KAMAZ 11:04:00 00:07:46
3 501 CHAGIN (RUS)
SAVOSTIN (RUS)
NIKOLAEV (RUS) KAMAZ 11:05:42 00:09:28
4 508 MARDEEV (RUS)
MIZYUKAEV (RUS)
MARDEEV (RUS) KAMAZ 11:34:20 00:38:06
5 504 DE AZEVEDO (BRA)
JUSTO (BRA)
MARTINEC (CZE) TATRA 11:51:46 00:55:32
6 527 VAN DEN BRINK (NLD)
STIJKEL (NLD)
LAGERWEIJ (NLD) GINAF 12:05:09 01:08:55
7 520 SPACIL (CZE)
KUBESA (CZE)
LAMAC (CZE) LIAZ 12:05:39 01:09:25
8 507 ECHTER (DEU)
RUF (DEU)
KLEIN (DEU) MAN 12:06:51 01:10:37
9 518 DUISTERS (BEL)
GEUSENS (BEL)
HUISMAN (NLD) GINAF 12:16:15 01:20:01
10 500 STACEY (NLD)
GOTLIB (BEL)
DER KINDEREN (NLD) MAN 12:23:35 01:27:21



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post Jan 6 2009, 11:17 AM
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Buget de Dakar

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Romeo Duicu a terminat pe locul 97 etapa a 3-a a Dakar 2009. Romanul care concureaza pentru echipa Vectra Racing Team a terminat cu timpul de 7h:03,06 secunde cursa castigata de spaniolul Marc Coma (5h:18,17 secunde), anunta site-ul oficial al competitiei.

In clasamentul general, Duicu ocupa locul 90 fiind singurul roman ramas in concurs dupa retragerea lui Marcel Butuza si Emanuel Gyenes.

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Clasamentul dupa ce-a de-a 4 etapa:

Car:

1 CARLOS SAINZ 12:47:45
2 NASSER SALEH AL ATTIYAH 12:51:31 + 00:03:46.00
3 Giniel DE VILLIERS 12:59:18 + 00:11:33.00
4 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL 13:03:26 + 00:15:41.00
5 Joan (nani) ROMA 13:07:45 + 00:20:00.00
6 MARK MILLER 13:07:50 + 00:20:05.00
7 ORLANDO TERRANOVA 13:12:15 + 00:24:30.00
8 LUC ALPHAND 13:28:56 + 00:41:11.00
9 ROBBY GORDON 13:34:30 + 00:46:45.00
10 KRZYSZTOF HOLOWCZYC 13:35:24 + 00:47:39.00

Moto:

1 MARC COMA 14:41:21
2 JONAH STREET 15:24:18 + 00:42:57.00
3 DAVID FRETIGNE 15:25:03 + 00:43:42.00
4 JORDI VILADOMS 15:37:18 + 00:55:57.00
5 PAL ANDERS ULLEVALSETER 15:39:50 + 00:58:29.00
6 Henk KNUIMAN 15:50:22 + 01:09:01.00
7 JACEK CZACHOR 15:56:12 + 01:14:51.00
8 Helder RODRIGUES 16:04:25 + 01:23:04.00
9 Frans VERHOEVEN 16:15:14 + 01:33:53.00
10 Einars VINTERS 16:18:20 + 01:36:59.00

Truck:

1 Gerard DE ROOY 15:16:41
2 VLADIMIR CHAGIN 15:26:55 + 00:10:14.00
3 FIRDAUS KABIROV 15:29:22 + 00:12:41.00
4 ILGIZAR MARDEEV 16:03:39 + 00:46:58.00
5 ANDRE DE AZEVEDO 16:27:25 + 01:10:44.00
6 Franz ECHTER 16:40:48 + 01:24:07.00
7 Marek SPACIL 16:46:04 + 01:29:23.00
8 HUGO DUISTERS 16:57:49 + 01:41:08.00
9 TOMAS TOMECEK 17:10:59 + 01:54:18.00
10 Hans STACEY 17:33:26 + 02:16:45.00


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Se pare ca mitsubishi este iesit total din lupta pilotii lor fiind la general dupa 5 etape pe locurile 5,6 si 8 si zilnic pierd timp cel putin in raport cu primele 3 locuri.

astazi sainz a lovit o piatra si a distrus servo pierzand astfel 15 min.
anyway clasamentul primilor 6 este astfel
1 302 AL ATTIYAH (QAT)/THORNER (SWE) BMW 18:44:37 00:00:00
2 305 DE VILLIERS (ZAF)/VON ZITZEWITZ (DEU) VOLKSWAGEN 18:47:01 00:02:24
3 301 SAINZ (ESP) /PERIN (FRA) VOLKSWAGEN 18:51:10 00:06:33
4 308 MILLER (USA)/PITCHFORD (ZAF) VOLKSWAGEN 19:04:32 00:19:55
5 304 ROMA (ESP)/CRUZ SENRA (ESP) MITSUBISHI 19:09:06 00:24:29
6 300 PETERHANSEL (FRA) /COTTRET (FRA) MITSUBISHI 19:13:21 00:28:44

practic lupta se va duce intre un bmw si doua vw-uri insa daca doamne fereste bmw-ul are o problema si pierde un ceas , vw este ca si castigator.

chiar nu concep ca vw sa nu castige acest dakar dupa ce au castigat in 2007 12 din cele 15 etape ale dakarului si au facut o branza din cauza unor probleme tehnice. doua masini vw( sainz si villiers) au castigat in 2007 11 etape ale raliului cea de a 12 victorie fiind a lui miller si a iesit caca maca.

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Interesant. Eu nu as vedea nimic culmea daca ar castiga BMW.Din cate stiu are mai multa experienta in dakar decat VW. Dakarul de anul acesta a fost compromis pentru Mitsubihi inca de la inceput. Nu am crezut ca ar putea fi din cauza pilotilor, ci din cauza masinii care, zic eu, nu este inca... "matura" daca imi permiteti, pentru un asemenea raliu.
Oricum este devreme sa dam vreun verdict. Este un raliu foarte imprevizibil.
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tin sa va multumesc pentru postarile clasamentului din fiecare etapa. Eu unul chiar nu am cum sa vad raliul.


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Personal, si mie imi cam "pute" noua masina de la Mitsu...nu este suficient de studiata, iar baietii s-au cam "culcat pe o ureche"...e totusi primul diesel pe care-l arunca in competitie, si trebuiau sa se astepte la surprize de genul asta...si, ca sa fiu sincer, nu-mi place deloc cum arata noul Mitsu (ma refer strict la design-ul exterior...), pe cand Touareg-ul de anul asta este foarte "tzapan"...

BMW are o singura sansa, arabul la fel...la prima chestie mai serioasa cu masina, vor pierde tot ce au castigat pana acum...

Rezultatele etapei de ieri:

Car:

1 Giniel DE VILLIERS (RSA) 05:47:43
1 CHRISTIAN POIRAULT (FRA) 03:00:00
2 Dieter DEPPING (GER) 05:50:01 00:02:18.00
3 ROBBY GORDON (USA) 05:51:55 00:04:12.00
4 NASSER SALEH AL ATTIYAH (QAT) 05:53:06 00:05:23.00
5 MARK MILLER (USA) 05:56:42 00:08:59.00
6 LUC ALPHAND (FRA) 05:57:45 00:10:02.00
7 Joan (nani) ROMA (ESP) 06:01:21 00:13:38.00
8 CARLOS SAINZ (ESP) 06:03:25 00:15:42.00
9 STEPHANE PETERHANSEL (FRA) 06:09:55 00:22:12.00
10 GUERLAIN CHICHERIT (FRA) 06:26:10 00:38:27.00

Moto:

JONAH STREET (USA) 06:41:06
2 Frans VERHOEVEN (NED) 06:46:59 00:05:53.00
3 Francisco LOPEZ (CHI) 06:48:40 00:07:34.00
4 DAVID CASTEU (FRA) 06:50:42 00:09:36.00
5 Helder RODRIGUES (POR) 06:51:41 00:10:35.00
6 DAVID FRETIGNE (FRA) 06:52:18 00:11:12.00
7 PAL ANDERS ULLEVALSETER (NOR) 06:55:44 00:14:38.00
8 CYRIL DESPRES (FRA) 06:55:52 00:14:46.00
9 MARC COMA (ESP) 06:56:51 00:15:45.00
10 JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) 07:07:36 00:26:30.00


Truck:

1 FIRDAUS KABIROV (RUS) 06:43:56
2 VLADIMIR CHAGIN (RUS) 06:56:15 00:12:19.00
3 Gerard DE ROOY (NED) 06:56:24 00:12:28.00
4 TOMAS TOMECEK (CZE) 07:37:20 00:53:24.00
5 Franz ECHTER (GER) 07:39:57 00:56:01.00
6 ILGIZAR MARDEEV (RUS) 07:40:12 00:56:16.00
7 Wulfert VAN GINKEL (NED) 08:18:22 01:34:26.00
8 Hans STACEY (NED) 08:32:11 01:48:15.00
9 Marek SPACIL (CZE) 08:38:07 01:54:11.00
10 ALES LOPRAIS (CZE) 08:38:54 01:54:58.00

Clasamentul la masini l-a postat Azazel, le postez doar pe celelalte:

Moto - primii 6:

1 MARC COMA 21:38:12
2 JONAH STREET 22:05:24 + 00:27:12.00
3 DAVID FRETIGNE 22:17:21 + 00:39:09.00
4 PAL ANDERS ULLEVALSETER 22:35:34 + 00:57:22.00
5 JORDI VILADOMS 22:44:54 + 01:06:42.00
6 Helder RODRIGUES 22:56:06 + 01:17:54.00

Truck - primii 6:

1 Gerard DE ROOY 22:13:05
2 FIRDAUS KABIROV 22:13:18 + 00:00:13.00
3 VLADIMIR CHAGIN 22:23:10 + 00:10:05.00
4 ILGIZAR MARDEEV 23:43:51 + 01:30:46.00
5 Franz ECHTER 00:20:45 + 21:52:20.00
6 TOMAS TOMECEK 00:48:19 + 21:24:46.00

Dupa cum se vede, la camioane Kabirov a inceput sa se apropie de De Rooy, la moto Coma are inca un avans consistent; din pacate, prima victima a raliului a fost consemnata ieri, motociclistul francez Pascal Terry fiind gasit mort, dupa ce duminica fusese dat disparut, in timpul etapei a doua...pana acum nu fusesera inregistrati decat raniti, dar Terry este primul care moare; D-zeu sa-l odihneasca, cel putin a murit implinindu-si un vis.


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QUOTE (adrian_flavius @ Jan 8 2009, 09:47 AM) *
pe cand Touareg-ul de anul asta este foarte "tzapan"...


nu neaparat.
in 2007 au castigat 12 din cele 15 etape si au terminat pe un onorabil loc 4(rectific ce am spus in primul post de la acest subiect).

deci daca au si ei o problema serioasa la fiecare masina, in care pierd cateva ore, s-au dus si ei la vale.
mi-e greu sa cred ca istoria din 2007 se poate repeta totusi.


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Azazel, eu ma refeream strict la aspectul exterior al masinii...asta insemnand ca Touareg-ul de anul asta arata bine, in comparatie cu celelalte masini din concurs...


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