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This topic is about Derapaj cauciucuri noi pe umezeala..., the author, Florin Ristei, wrote about: Revin cu o intrebare. Mi-am luat cauciucuri noi ... Dunlop SP SPORT 200E de 205/60/R15 ... si azi (dupa o lapovitza si ninsoare) pe sosea era alunecos ... To read more just scroll down

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Florin Ristei
post Oct 31 2005, 09:25 PM
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Revin cu o intrebare. Mi-am luat cauciucuri noi ... Dunlop SP SPORT 200E de 205/60/R15 ... si azi (dupa o lapovitza si ninsoare) pe sosea era alunecos (dar nu chiar ca iarna) ... si totusi la o plecare mai brusca de pe loc sau la o frana mai brusca...imi patina un pic...este normal la cauciucurile astea chiar daca sunt noi?


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post Oct 31 2005, 09:28 PM
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chiar daca sunt de vara ?


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post Oct 31 2005, 09:45 PM
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Eu mi-am pus cauciucuri de iarna pe Renault si pe un carosabil udat in fata de o cisterna stropitoare(dar in ziua aia au fost 24 de grade),cand masinile din fata s-au oprit in fata putin mai brusc,a intrat ABS-ul de ziceam ca nu ma mai opresc....


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post Oct 31 2005, 09:47 PM
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chiar daca raspunde numai G e o r g e ? Glumeam... in fine...
nu am bani acum (iarna asta) ... sa cumpar alte cauciucuri (abia am schimbat astea si altele) ... si cred ca o sa merg cu astea atat cat se poate. Nici anul trecut nu erau schimbate (erau cele vechi, mai tocite) ... si nu s-au comportat rau pe zapada. Asa ca ce ziceti, riscuri mari sa patineze tare?


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post Oct 31 2005, 09:57 PM
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Mda,se pare ca scriu cu litere invizibile.....sigur e vreo defectiune !


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post Oct 31 2005, 10:01 PM
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Dar nu te-ai prins ca s-ar putea sa fie o pelicula de ulei ceva zeama, mizga etc cu care au venit din fabrica si care trebuie "consumata" inainte ca cauciucurile sa aiba performantzele pretinse de producator ?

Ce crezi...ca tu ai cauciucuri de F1 ? Si alea u nevoie de vreo tura-doua sa se incalzeasca si sa devina lipicioase = aderente


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post Oct 31 2005, 10:07 PM
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imi dau si eu cu parearea ca un novice ce sunt, dar si eu am pe volvo Dunlop 195/65/15 noi-noutze, dar de vara, adica au doua santuri pe circumferinta rotilor.la iarna trag pe dreapta sau imi iau doua de iarna.alea de iarna au profilul in V,sa tina la franare.nici nu sunt asa scumpe, 230 ron/buc.
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post Oct 31 2005, 10:12 PM
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deci f1anatica sa inteleg ca imi sugerezi sa le mai "rodez" un pic inainte de a vedea performantele pe umezeala si pe zapada... Am facut cam 600 km de cand le-am luat ... o sa incerc sa mai fac niste burnout-uri cu ele sa vad smile.gif


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post Oct 31 2005, 10:18 PM
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Ehh.. de F1...pentru 3-4 luni de iarna am luat cauciucuri resapate Pneus,produse la Radauti printr-o tehnologie germana.Arata foarte bine si doar eu si cine citeste aici stiu ca sunt resapate....Chiar nu mi-e rusine cu ele,am vazut si baieti cu 4X4 si unul chiar cu Land Cruiser punandu-si aceleasi cauciucuri.


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post Nov 1 2005, 09:34 AM
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Din cate stiu eu cauciucurile noi incep sa functioneze in parametri normali abia dupa 500 de km asa ca eu zic sa mai astepti pana sa dai cu paru" in producatori


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post Nov 1 2005, 10:00 AM
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Si mie mi s-a parut ca aderenta era cam scazuta azi. Am bridgestone de vara. Poate fi si din cauza temperaturii de afara ?? Deh: "Iarna nu-i ca vara!!!!" Citat din maximele iubitului nostru presedinte.


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post Nov 1 2005, 10:56 AM
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. si azi (dupa o lapovitza si ninsoare) pe sosea era alunecos (dar nu chiar ca iarna) ... si totusi la o plecare mai brusca de pe loc sau la o frana mai brusca...imi patina un pic...este normal la cauciucurile astea chiar daca sunt noi?


Pai daca soseaua e alunecoasa (din cauza poleiului, stratului de apa, zapada, gheata, etc...) atunci fii sigur ca o sa patineze... sunt niste gume pana la urma si indiferent de profil daca contactul dintre asfalt si pneuri nu e perfect (adica intre ele e un strat de lapovita, zapada, gheata, apa, ulei, whatever) atunci o sa patineze...

Si eu am dunloop sport pe Sharan... sunt OK, dar nu au performante iesite din comun... Michelin Pilot-urile de pe opel sunt mai bune, din pacate astea sunt de vara asa ca in curand va trebui sa pun ceva "de iarna", nu agreez cauciucurile de iarna pt ca dupa iarna vina primavara (alt truism a' la base) iar primavara rasar gropile ca ghioceii... si mi-e mila de cauciucurile mele de vara cu talon jos asa ca le tin tot pe cele "de iarna" care defapt sunt allweather (pana cei de la drumuri au bunavointa sa astupe craterele).


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post Nov 1 2005, 04:26 PM
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mmda...o sa le testez deci la iarna smile.gif


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post Nov 2 2005, 11:17 AM
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Mai baieti, sa fiu sincer, chiar si cu michelin-urile mele mi-a intrat ieri ABS-ul. Si aveam 10 la ora sau ceva de genul asta (imi taiase un jmecher fatza venind perpendicular spre mine, deci l-am vazut foarte tarziu).

faza mai mishto e ca dupa ce era sa ne bushim in lantz din cauza lui, a inceput sa-si faca freza in oglinda.....


deci da, ieri pe la 4 grade celsius cu suprafata relativ umeda, michelinurile special facute pentru iarna au alunecat mai mult decat am sperat eu.. poate nu a venit inca vremea lor...


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post Nov 2 2005, 11:28 AM
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la franare brusca si umezeala pe jos e normal.


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post Nov 3 2005, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Marius43590)
Si mie mi s-a parut ca aderenta era cam scazuta azi.


.....nu inteleg....voi mergeti la limita aderentei sau cum? blink.gif ....unde va credeti, la curse?.... bicycle.gif biggrin.gif Io am mers vara - iarna cu aceleasi cauciucuri, am mers vara cu cauciucuri de iarna si invers si n-am avut niciodata probleme! :angel: E adevarat ca si io merg finutz, maxim de prudent, nu-i dau in gura NICIODATA, sunt un adevarat gentelman cu masinuta mea.....poate de aia n-am io probleme de aderenta, ca sunt departe de limite.....la urma urmei suntem pe strada, nu la curse, deci ar trebui sa nu ne preocupe prea mult acest aspect al aderentei (parerea mea).... :wave:

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post Nov 3 2005, 03:58 PM
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referitor la "gume noi - aderenta proasta", am citit in manualul masinii ca in primii 500 km aderenta e mai proasta, lucru pe care il pot confirma... si gumele de pe audi patineaza un pic... pacat ca e masina in rodaj ca altfel i-as face niste burnouturi biggrin.gif

Alexandru, nu, nu mergem la limita aderentei, dar lipsa de aderenta dintre pneuri si asfalt se simte si la o franare mai mica sau la o accelerare putin mai brusca...


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post Nov 3 2005, 08:02 PM
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"nu mergem la limita aderentei, dar lipsa de aderenta dintre pneuri si asfalt se simte si la o franare mai mica sau la o accelerare putin mai brusca..."

nu sunt de acord cu tine halbasus,se simte lipsa aderentei in functie de asfalt:umed,"slibovita"sau zapada, si de gume:noi,resapate sau"desapate" biggrin.gif adik gen opinci.
bravo alex pentru topic :clapping:
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vroiam sa spun ca nu trebuie sa mergem cu 120 prin curbe ca sa ne dam seama ca nu au aderenta perfecta... si la 30 la ora poti simti acest lucru... desigur lipsa aderentei poate avea cauze diferite (enumerate si de tine).


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