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This topic is about Chei ascunse?, the author, radu35829, wrote about: De curand am auzit o chestie despre care nu stiu ce sa cred. Cica anumite masini de provenienta vest ar avea ascunse prin caroserie sau anumite parti ... To read more just scroll down

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post Nov 23 2004, 10:23 AM
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De curand am auzit o chestie despre care nu stiu ce sa cred. Cica anumite masini de provenienta vest ar avea ascunse prin caroserie sau anumite parti componente chei :?: de contact/portiere. Spre exemplu Ford Mondeo ar avea o chei bagata nu stiu cum intr-un far :roll: Greu de crezut dar, daca are cineva idee va rog luminati-ma si pe mine.
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post Nov 23 2004, 12:10 PM
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vezi sa nu, poate in matrix laugh.gif


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post Nov 23 2004, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(radu35829)
...Cica anumite masini de provenienta vest ar avea ascunse prin caroserie sau anumite parti componente chei :?: ...

si eu am gasit o cheie de 10 ascunsa in roata de rezerva. tz tz tz ce oameni domne. :violent1:


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post Nov 23 2004, 12:34 PM
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In aceeasi idee, este legal sa intreb cum se deschide o usa incuiata folosind rigla? laugh.gif
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post Nov 23 2004, 03:03 PM
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depinde ce chei si in ce masini cauti!!!
daca cauti in Fordu Mondeo ala de care ziceai, sigur nu o sa gasesti o cheie franceza pt. ca nu-i fabricat, si anume, in franta.
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Spre exemplu Ford Mondeo ar avea o chei bagata nu stiu cum intr-un far

daca dai faza lunga si te uiti direct in spotul luminos vreo 10 minute :shock: sigur o gasesti!
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post Nov 23 2004, 03:19 PM
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Se deschide usor. Eu am fost nevoit sa fac asa cu masina parintilor mei, care au uitat cheile inauntru. Nu-ti dau detalii aici ca sa nu facem o impresie gresita.

Referitor la chei ascunse, poate nu a inteles bine omu. Poate este vorba de seria de caroserie care la multe masini de lux este shtantzata in mai multe locuri. Este un sistem de recunoastere in caz de furt.



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In aceeasi idee, este legal sa intreb cum se deschide o usa incuiata folosind rigla? laugh.gif


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post Nov 23 2004, 07:20 PM
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Salut,
Ce am vazut la vecinul care isi incuiase cheile (fara dubluri) si telecomanda de alarma intr-un Opel Astra: se scoate chederul acela de cauciuc si se lucreaza cu o sarma otelita care are carlig la capat. Treaba de 'vo 5 minute pentru un nene de la service. Daca ai geam intredeschis poti incerca acelasi lucru cu un carlig lung dar risti (lucrand pe interior) sa rupi tapiteria.
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post Nov 23 2004, 08:02 PM
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Bine bine, dar de ce tragi cu carligul ala? Ce cauti? Cam asta am vazut si noi in filme smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2004, 01:33 AM
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Mah da' sa stiti ca totusi n-ar fi rea ideea asta cu ascunsul unei chei de contact/portiere pe undeva prin masina, de care sa nu stie decat proprietarul, bineinteles, fiindca ar avea un mare avantaj, dupa parerea mea: daca esti plecat departe de casa (sute de km, chiar peste o mie) si pierzi cheia (cheile) masinii......ce faci??? :shock: :roll: Scrii/telefonezi acasa sa-ti trimita cheia de rezerva? Dar daca acasa la tine (unde tii cheia de rezerva) nu e nimeni si nici nu poate intra nimeni (cheile de la casa fiind tot la tine), ce faci??? :blackeye: Ehhh? Atunci ar pica al naibii de bine sa ai o cheie de aia ascunsa pe undeva prin masina.....o scoti si gata.....ai plecat, este? :cheers: Parerea mea..... Alte comentarii?

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post Nov 24 2004, 03:02 PM
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da e misto... adica daca esti la mii de km de casa si iti incui cheile in masina sau le pierzi ai sa te apuci sa rupi capota motorului sau sa spargi vreun geam sa gasesti cheia fantoma... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

daca tot rupi si spargi, de ce nu faci contactul pe direct??? va dati seama cum bagi ranga aia intre grila si capota motor la un mondeo nou-nout laugh.gif laugh.gif sau..., nu m-am gandit poti sparge farul direct poate e acolo...

parerea mea e ca daca nu poti tine niste chei cu tine sa nu-ti mai iei masina... nici n-ar trebui sa ai permis... daca-l pierzi :!:
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post Nov 24 2004, 04:11 PM
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Cred ca este o metoda mai eleganta. Capota la motor se poate deschide mai usor si este si mai usor de reparat. Desfaci borna (-) de la baterie si este un anumit cod de facut contact-luat contactul care itzi reseteaza computerul respectiv usile daca au inchidere centralizata. Nu va zic nici pe ce modele de General Motors merge si nici care este codul.

Altfel, rigla...batzul sau piatra. Sau dealerul care are chei universale. Cu rigla e mai mult treaba de filme pt. ca ma pot gindi la macar 5 solutzii cum sa impiedic rigla sa traca de cheder si/sau sa ajunga la mechanism.

Oricum, eu am intotdeauna amindoua cheile la mine. Legate de mine. Cea cu telecomanda este cea pe care am sansele sa o pierd, alelelate sint legate de centura. Mai greu sa ajung in fundul gol...

DAR cunosc persoane care si-au ascuns cheia de rezerva pe sub masina cu magnet, cu cite o cutiutza sudata, lipita cumva. Sau legata cu cite un colier de plastic (immortal de altfel) care trebuie taiat. Faza cu ascunsul in far, etc ar tzine numai daca ai putea sa accessezi farul si sa-l demontezi fara sa ridici capota la motor sau port-bagage ceea ce la modelele din ultimii 10 ani macar...NU se poate.


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post Nov 24 2004, 06:13 PM
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Bun si referitor la problema din topic: se poate face o dublura a unei chei originale ce are cip de protectie. Aceasta dublura nu va porni motorul, evident, pentru ca nu are cip...dar oare va deschide usile, ce ziceti???
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post Nov 24 2004, 08:34 PM
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Da, va deschide usile, mai mult, unii producatori (cum ar fi VW) iti dau o a treia cheie "de rezerva" care e facuta din... PLASTIC... adica toata cheia e facuta din plastic nu doar partea superioare... arata ca un batz de inghetzata... e foarte evident ca nu poti porni motorul cu o cheie de genul ala dar poti sa deschizi usa, cred ca utilitatea ei este cand vrei sa dai cheile masinii cuiva pentru a scoate ceva din masina dar in nici un caz nu vrei sa "faca o tura" cu masina... De mentionat ca in cazul unelor alarme mai "inteligente" (adica foarte proaste) in cazul deschiderii usii cu cheia (nu cu telecomanda) va porni alarma in momentul pornirii motorului... mi s-a intamplat la o dacia supernova la care am uitat luminile pornite si s-a descarcat bateria, nu a putut deschide usile pt ca nu mai avea curent, am deschis cu cheia si in mod inexplicabil a pornit alarma (nu mai avea curent sa faca o scanteie sau sa deschida usile, dar de trezit vecinii avea... )
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CHestia cu alarma...la mine daca pun alarma si las geamurile deschise ...daca incerc sa o deschid de afara, bagind mina pe geam...porneste alarma. Sau daca sint in masina, pun alarma si apoi dau sa pornesc motorul, nici nu pleaca si porneste si galagia. E proasta deci ?

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Nu stiu la ce cheie cu cip de referi. Oricum daca te referi la cheile de la Mertzane and such, cred ca sint si foarte greu de copiat...si tot degeaba...caci unde au reusit sa implementeze un cip pt pornirea motorului, nu o fi greu acuma sa mai adauge 3 incuietori destepte pt sofer-pass. fatza si portbagage.


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post Nov 24 2004, 11:22 PM
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cred ca ai ori senzor de perimetru, ori senzor volumetric, ori ambele (ca mine :cheers: ) E normal sa declanseze cand bagi mana pe geamul uitat/lasat deschis. Nu asta iti doresti?
Mai nou cip in cheie gasesti si la modele foarte ieftine (vezi Kia Rio a mea, versiunea safety vine cu cip in cheie) cu toate acestea cheia nu are o forma foarte speciala, putand fi multiplicata fara probleme (si fara cip :roll: ). Dar e buna si copia sa deschida usile, mai ales daca ii gasesti o ascunzatoare valabila pe exteriorul masinii :albino:
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post Nov 25 2004, 10:17 AM
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Apropos de a 3-a cheie de plastic am primit si eu la A4 una. Ei ii zic 'cheia de service'. Am auzit de la un prieten ca la Mercedes cu astfel de cheie nu se pot parurge decat maxim 20 km (ca sa poate face teste cu ea dar sa nu se plimbe pana acasa, etc). Nu am reusit inca sa aflu daca la Audi e aceeasi chestie, dar luni ma mai duc pe acolo si mai vedem...
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post Nov 25 2004, 10:26 AM
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Chestia asta cu cheia "ascunsa" tine de Matrix, asa cum a scris cineva. Si chiar asa, daca esti asa de ametit ca-ti uiti cheile inauntru sau le pierzi, foarte bine... se poate intampla oricui. Dar este foarte simplu. Eu de cate ori plec din Bucuresti, imi iau obligatoriu a doua cheie pe care o pastrez in alt loc decat in buzunarul unde tin prima cheie. Asa ca ...
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post Nov 25 2004, 11:56 AM
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Problema devine mai complicata daca ai cumparat masina prin credit. Sau, cel putin cei de la Volksbank mi-au cerut cea de-a doua cheie sa o tina in seiful bancii... :roll: Asa ca sunt foarte atent ce fac cu singura cheie pe care o am laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2004, 03:05 PM
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[quote]Apropos de a 3-a cheie de plastic am primit si eu la A4 una. Ei ii zic 'cheia de service'. Am auzit de la un prieten ca la Mercedes cu astfel de cheie nu se pot parurge decat maxim 20 km (ca sa poate face teste cu ea dar sa nu se plimbe pana acasa, etc).[/quote]

Si taica-meu are A4 si are o cheie "de service" (nu e din plastic dar in orice caz nu se poate conduce cu ea), se poate porni motorul si cred ca poti sa si mergi ceva vreme cu ea, dar dupa multe porniri, respectiv daca mergi prea mult cu ea se blocheaza, si iti trebuie cheia originala sa o pornesti. [/quote]
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