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Lucian107416
post Feb 4 2011, 04:28 AM
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Situatie e fara iesire la legea din Romania. Adica platesti.

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post Feb 4 2011, 01:09 PM
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Solutia este foarte simpla, de fiecare data trebuie mers la politie si in nici un caz dat bani sau altceva. Fiecare trebuie sa accepte situatia si consecintele dar sa dea dovada de un minim simt civic si sa mearga la politie; deja cand animalul o sa trebuiasca sa se legitimeze nu o sa mai fie asa de plin de aplomb. Iar eu as fi deja mult mai multumit sa-i stiu numele si adresa.
Dupa 30 de zile de accidente consecutive, "nu din vina lui" dar de fiecare data cu mentionari in procesele verbale si eventual contestatii, se deschid multe posibilitati de punere a animalului unde ii este locul si chiar de recuperare a unei parti din prejudiciu (material si moral).

Asa vad eu spiritul civic, nu "boicotare de benzinarii in turma" de exemplu. Ca peste tot in Europa, si Romania e o piata libera si cine nu isi permite sa alimenteze are alternativa sa-si achizitioneze o masina economica si sa mearga cu 50 si 90km/h, sa mearga cu transportul in comun, pe jos sau cu bicicleta, dar asta e o alta discutie.
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post Feb 4 2011, 01:18 PM
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Mda. Adta e ca aia:"Sa nu dai spage la doctori!". In realitate fiecare da, pentru ca e vorba de sanatatea lui sau a cuiva drag. Teoretic tu ai dreptate, practic in Romania nu s-ar intampla nimic. Pagubitii ar trebui sa se gaseasca si sa se actioneze pe cale civila. Nu sunt avocat, dar nu cred ca ar fi vreo sansa de castig. Asa cum exista anual cativa care castiga la loto cu 1 sansa la 14 milioane, la fel ar putea exista unul care are 30 de accidente in cateva zile. Iar 30 care sa nu plateasca se gasesc foarte GREU.
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QUOTE (Lucian107416 @ Feb 4 2011, 02:18 PM) *
Mda. Adta e ca aia:"Sa nu dai spage la doctori!". In realitate fiecare da, pentru ca e vorba de sanatatea lui sau a cuiva drag. Teoretic tu ai dreptate, practic in Romania nu s-ar intampla nimic. Pagubitii ar trebui sa se gaseasca si sa se actioneze pe cale civila. Nu sunt avocat, dar nu cred ca ar fi vreo sansa de castig. Asa cum exista anual cativa care castiga la loto cu 1 sansa la 14 milioane, la fel ar putea exista unul care are 30 de accidente in cateva zile. Iar 30 care sa nu plateasca se gasesc foarte GREU.



Daca fiecare ar incepe sa numere cu el insusi, ar ramane doar 29... smile.gif Pe de alta parte, oricine are libertatea sa se complaca sau nu intr-un anumit gen de societate (sa-i spunem anturaj extins smile.gif )

Numai bine!

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post Feb 4 2011, 03:19 PM
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E vorba si de cadrul legal.
In strainatate, risti sa pierzi bonusul la asigurare (daca n-ai joker), insa riscul escrocului sa fie descoperit tinde la 100% (daca depune 30 constatari de accident pe luna, toate cu aceeasi poveste). Pe constat se scriu ambele versiuni ale povestii iar daca apar dubii se cer expertize, chiar si daca are martori. Daca in 30 accidente aproape identice "vinovatii" scriu aceeasi declaratie, iar martorii sunt intotdeauna aceeasi, merita sa incerci o expertiza ca asigurator, nu? In loc sa platesti orbeste cateva mii de € daune.
In belgia toate societatile de asigurari au acces la o baza de date comune unde toate ispravile sunt consemnate. Asigurarea "vinovatului" poate fara probleme sa verifice istoria celuilalt chiar daca nu ii este client.

In Romania insa risti sa-ti pierzi carnetul, iar el nu risca mare lucru pentru ca "sistemul" inca nu are memorie, nu cred ca politia stie ca a fost implicat si in accidente tot "din vina altora". In bazele de date cred ca apar doar "contravenientii", nu si "victimile".
Iar el nu apare nici in baza de date a vreunui asigurator ca fiind foarte ghinionist, cel unde are el RCA-ul habar n-are "istoricul", intrucat masinile sunt facute pe RCA-ul celuilalt.

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post Feb 4 2011, 03:55 PM
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s-a implementat si la noi sistemul bonus-mallus. E inca in faza de inceput si nu tine cont de anii precedenti startului noului sistem. Cel putin astea sunt informatiile mele

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post Feb 4 2011, 04:16 PM
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Lucian : Hai sa lamurim juridic chestia asta: Sa zicem ca 1 cetatean depune plangere la politie. Ce se poate demonstra? Ca x-lescu are 30 de accidente pe zi? Nu, pentru ca nu sunt declarate. Se poate demonstra o fapta dar nu se poate demonstra intentia acestuia de-a savarsi cu intentie aceasta fapta. Daca vrem sa construim un probatoriu, trebuiesc gasite si alte victime , urmarit baiatul, supravegheat cand insceneaza accidentul si atunci fapta ar putea fi incadrata la infractiunea de santaj in forma continuata. Astfel politistii pot contacta ulterior victimele , luate declaratie si plangere si coroborate cu supravegherea si plangerea initiala, se poate demonstra ceva.


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post Feb 4 2011, 04:51 PM
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@Lucian
Da' asiguratorii au o baza de date comuna cu ispravile soferilor? Sau de fiecare data cand schimbi asiguratorul o iei de la 0?
Aici stie si ce-ai mancat acum 10 ani... ultimu' la care m-am asigurat stie si unde am fost asigurat in Franta in 2002 si ce bonus mi-au dat aia.


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baza de date comuna. Insa la noi, pentru a te atrage de client, te iau si cu mallus, in speranta ca poate te cumintesti, ca nu exista un management coerent la asiguratori etc. Iar bonus-ul nu se prea da. Iti zic ca faptul ca e acelasi pret e de fapt bonus, caci de fapt ar fi trebuit sa creasca cu 30% biggrin.gif. Dupa cum am zis, Romania e in faza de inceput

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post Mar 27 2011, 01:17 PM
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post Mar 27 2011, 01:43 PM
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Mama, mama daca existau SUV-uri decapotabile .... ce recorduri de vanzari scoteau cu baietii astia! Daca exista, nu sunt destul de bine promovate. Wrangler nu se pune.

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post Mar 27 2011, 10:19 PM
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Eu revin la obsesia mea cu sistemul sanitar din Romania unde orice problema ai tre' s-o rezolvi cu bani si inca bani multi. Nesimtirea doctorilor romani a ajuns la cote maxime . Nimeni nu zice ca n-au salarii mici dar cand te uiti in curtea spitaleor vezi expozitii de limuzine de lux. tarele acestui sistem corupt vor fi foarte greu de extirpat si din pacate nici nu se incearca. Nesimtirea incepe de la banii mancati de stat si se opreste la furtul din spitale si nesimtirea ultimei infirmiere care nici nu se uita la tine daca nu-i dai bani. Daca politisti mai sunt arestati, vamesi, judecatori, etc, medicii se pare c-au ajuns sa aiba cel ai corupt sistem aparat cu dintii chiar de cei care ar trebui sa -i controleze. Ma bucur ca n-am niciun prieten medic si sper nici sa nu-mi fac.


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post Apr 27 2011, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (solmar @ Mar 27 2011, 07:43 AM) *
Mama, mama daca existau SUV-uri decapotabile .... ce recorduri de vanzari scoteau cu baietii astia! Daca exista, nu sunt destul de bine promovate. Wrangler nu se pune.

dar de crossover decapotabil ce spui?
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În urma citirii știrii că Dan Chișu vrea să facă un documentar despre Bahoi și, spre rușinea mea nu știam despre el, mi-am reamintit că știu doar acest personaj sărind de pe pod.
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